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Hopefully we've nailed him now.
1891 England Census Name: Elizabeth A Chapman Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles Chapman Gender: Female Where born: Hoxton, London, England Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Dalston St Phillip County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Hackney Household Members: Name Age Charles Chapman 38 - Boot maker; Hoxton Elizabeth A Chapman 33 James R Chapman 9 - scholar Charles Chapman 8 - scholar William Chapman 6 - scholar Robert Chapman 4 - scholar Annie Chapman 2 Jessie Chapman 5 Months - son
1881 England Census Name: Charles Chapman Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Chapman Gender: Male Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Leonards Shoreditch County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 14 Laburnam St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Boot Maker
Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston Household Members: Name Age Charles Chapman 28 Elizabeth Chapman 23 - Shoreditch, Middlesex
OK, so it certainly looks as if she was born c1858 not '53.
??? Births Sep 1857 Allen Elizabeth Shoreditch 1c 193
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1871: Bummer!
Elizabeth Allen James, Emma abt 1858 Shoreditch Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch, London Elizabeth Allen William, Sarah abt 1858 Shoreditch Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch, London
However, plus having a son named Jessie: 1861 England Census Name: Elizabeth Allen Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Jessie Allen Mother's Name: Ann Allen Gender: Female Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John the Evangelist County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 16 Union St
Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Household Members: Name Age Jessie Allen 21 - Shoemaker; St Lukes Ann Allen 22 - Epsom, Surrey Elizabeth Allen 3 Mary Allen 1 Emma Allen 5 MO
1871 England Census Name: Jessie Allen Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Ann Allen Gender: Male Where born: St Luke Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 10 Saxony Cottages
Occupation: Shoe maker
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: South Hackney Household Members: Name Age Jessie Allen 30 Mary Ann Allen 32 - Epsom Mary Jane Allen 11 Emily Alice Allen 9 Janetta Allen 8 Rachel Allen 6 Richard Allen 3
??? Marriages Sep 1857 Allen Jesse Shoreditch 1c 463 <<<<< Clark Eliza Shoreditch 1c 463 Field Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 463 <<<<< Springett William Shoreditch 1c 463
??? Births Dec 1841 Field Mary Ann Epsom 4 105
You'll need the certificates to prove any of this.
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Hi,
It is very confusing, so I'll get the certificates to prove all the information.
Thanks again for all your hard work Tony
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That's the next step forward, Tony. Don't forget to come back to this thread and give us the results. We're always interested to know how searches are going.
Ozi
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