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although i have found my g grandmothers details re dom to my g grandfather thomas charles cove and her living i beleive in bitterne with a wheeler family i cant connect her to her real family.
i also have a further marriage to thomas's brother richard to an amy moody. and this has made their children difficult to put in correct tree. i have some details from the 1911 and this prooves my grandad thomas frederick charles and others.
finally i can only find 1 dod for first thomas 1961 but in winchester? while an emma passed in southampton. my grand father passed in 1963 any help great.

Is this your great-grandfather's death:-

Name: Thomas C Cove
Death Registration Month/Year: 1963
Age at death (estimated): 58
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1022

Edit - no this one wouldn't be old enough

Kath. x

thats my grandad thomas frederick charles cove dob 1906 his dad was thomas charles cove and you are very quick.
brian

Is this her birth:-

Name: Emma Jane Moody
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: South Stoneham
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2a
Page: 63

The certificate will give you her parents names

The Wheelers on the 1901 census are Emma's grandparents.

Kath. x

my g grandmother appears born s stoneham
emma jane moody jfm 1886 s stoneham
thomas charles cove to emma jane moody both jas 1905 2c 135
dod an emma j cove aged 59 southampton ond 1945
i have a fair bit but cant put her with her family above.
brian

This is the Wheeler family in 1891 (Matilda Moody is Joseph's step-daughter). Perhaps Matilda is Emma's mother:-



1891 England Census about Joseph Wheeler
Name: Joseph Wheeler
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Wheeler
Gender: Male
Where born: Marchwood, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
Town: Bitterne
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Alma Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Joseph Wheeler 52, Labourer
Eliza Wheeler 47
Eliza Kinchington 72, mother-in-law
Matilda Moody 17, stepdaughter

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 924; Folio 49; Page 32; GSU roll: 6096034.

Kath. x

kath you do this so quick and some of this has taken me ages .
i think your right maybe its time to look at her birth certificate and find her parents the nearest i got was a conection to mr wheeler and wifes name then portsmouth under william i think but not sure. s stoneham birth doesn't tie with portsmouth but maybe family in bitterne.

On the 1901 census there is a Matilda Powdrill with the Wheelers. She is the Matilda Moody from the 1891 census. This is her marriage:-

Name: Matilda Ellen Moody
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: South Stoneham
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 103

On the page is Frederick John Powdrill.

Kath. x

emma and thomas i beleive had a daughter matilda so maybe like i once thought that maybe the mother too.
if her sister inlaw wasn't a moody it would be easier to say matilda was a daughter of her.
brian

Not sure now whether Matilda can be Emma's mother as this is Matilda's birth:-

Name: Matilda Ellen Moody
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Stoneham
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 50

I would say she must be some relation though.

Kath. x

that's it yeah it would make her twelve? and i think that's how i got stuck so if there is a sister then where is she living.
brian

This is a bit complicated. Eliza Wheeler was previously Eliza Kinchenten (or Kinchington). In the 1881 census here she is:-



1881 England Census about Matilda Moody
Name: Matilda Moody
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Eliza Moody
Gender: Female
Where born: Bitterne, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: South Stoneham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Commercial St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Eliza Kinchenten 62
Eliza Moody 37, daughter, widow
Eliza Moody 12, granddaughter
Matilda Moody 7, granddaughter
Henry Sharp 19, lodger.

I wonder if Emma was Eliza's daughter (the 12 year old Eliza)

Kath. x

i once thought amy moody, richards wife was possibly a relation but have found nothing
found an amy lillian j moody jas 1879 s stoneham
found 1901 census re family in pound street bitterne with amy l moody daughter 22
this ones good as strange its where i live .

This would be Eliza Moody in the 1891 census:-



1891 England Census about Eliza Moody
Name: Eliza Moody
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Sholing, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: South Stoneham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Saviour
Town: Bitterne
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Richard W Berkeley 55
Georgina F Berkeley 49
Eliza Moody 22, domestic servant - cook
Charles E Adderson 13

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 924; Folio 36; Page 5; GSU roll: 6096034.

Kath. x

and eliza would be about 17 and her father maybe the sailor i found in portsmouth and mum remarried joseph wheeler from marchwood. eling. emmas aunty matilda and gave her daughter that name 1916
i think i had found a william as poss so moody was his name.
brian

This would seem to be Eliza Moody's marriage (the Eliza born c.1869):-

Name: Eliza Moody
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: South Stoneham
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 95

Spouse is William Henry Slade.

I think Eliza could possibly be Emma's mother but you really need Emma's birth certificate to be certain of any of this.

Kath. x

probably not going to find emmas dad but this is so helpfull kath.
you are one clever person thanks for the help
brian x

This looks like Eliza with her husband and children in the 1901 census. Ancestry has transcribed two families together by mistake. The Bartley's are next door neighbours and not the same family:-

1901 England Census about William Slade
Name: William Slade
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza Slade
Father's Name: Charles Bartley (mistake by Ancestry)
Gender: Male
Where born: Netley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Sholing
Ecclesiastical parish: Sholing St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age

William Slade 33
Eliza Slade 29
Frederick Slade 9
Albert Slade 7
Sydney Slade 5
Alfred Slade 3
Arthur Slade 7 Months

Emily E Bartley 22 (next family on census)
Charles Bartley 71
Mabel E Bartley 2
Sophia M Bartley 1

Kath. x

i know a slade from work who lives local too and there is every chance given the surname we may share more than our occupation.
this is where you prob have discovered my heart rules over my head.
brian

You never know Brian - stranger things have happened!! I'd buy Emma's birth certificate and go from there. If Eliza IS Emma's mother then I would start asking lots of questions to your Slade workmate.

Off to bed now - good luck with your research.

Kath. x