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I'm trying to find my husband's grandfather known as Joseph Freer, although that may not have been his first name, born sometime in the 1890s. Apparently him and his brother David were unofficially adopted or fostered. I'm hoping that the 1911 census may give a few clues - many thanks

Angela

Have you any idea of location Angela?
Jan

Unfortunately no, other than it was Birmingham.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1238912

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: FREER, Joseph James Henry
Address: 175 Poplar Avenue Birmingham

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FREER, George Head Married M 44 1867 General Diesinker Birmingham VIEW
FREER, Annie Wife Married
18 years F 42 1869 Birmingham VIEW
FREER, George Oswell Son Single M 17 1894 Commmercial Student Handsworth Bham VIEW
FREER, Joseph James Henry Son Single M 14 1897 Clerk Handsworth Bham VIEW
FREER, Annie Amelia Lucy Daughter Single F 12 1899 At School Handsworth Bham VIEW
FREER, Mabel Lois Irene Daughter Single F 10 1901 At School Ladywood Birmingham VIEW

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I think that's an extremely good location really! You haven't got another thread on this have you though?
Jan

or this one?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: FREER, Joseph
Institution: 1/r Wark, 1ST R. WAR. R., BOMBAY, INDIA
Military details: Private 1/r War R

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FREER, Joseph Single ? 22 1889 Birmingham Warwick VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34997 Reference:

Many thanks Jax, I've no idea if this is the correct Joseph Freer. Although this doesn't fit with the myth of "adoption" or a brother called David.

Is this his death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Joseph Freer
Name: Joseph Freer
Death Registration Month/Year: 1957
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 99

Rose

I was trying to trace Joseph's marriage earlier today, as I know his wife's name and thought that might be the way to trace Joseph's name and father's name - that's the thread that Flick is referring to - although it appears it might never have married! Thanks for your help.

I think that could be Joseph's death, I know he died before my husband was born in the 1960s. Unfortunately my father in law's memory (his son) isn't that good. However, this does confirm he was called Joseph Freer and probably born in 1889 - many thanks again

Name: Joseph Freer
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Marrell 42
Mary A Marrell 50
Ellen Marrell 16
Joseph Freer 2

Should say Barrett

1901

Name: Joseph Freer
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
George Barrett 52
Mary Ann Barrett 60
Joseph Freer 13



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Hi, this is looking very promising, although no reference to "David". Why do you think the name changes from Marrell to Barrett?

It did'nt change I could see from the origanal it said Barrett and had been transcribed wrongly

jax

OK Barrett it is. I'd like to send off for Joseph's birth cert, are you able to tell me the reference numbers etc I need to quote? many thanks

Angela

I would think it is this one

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
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FREER Joseph Aston 6d 393

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What do you know about David? When did he die and whom did he marry?

Rose

Joseph is overseas in 1911. Perhaps the marriage was also overseas?

Rose

Think the marriage is on the other thread Rose

cannot see any Davids born in Birmingham area for that sort of period

jax

The "David" could be a middle name, but from help from the kind people on GR neither 1891 or 1901 census show David as living with the same uncle as Joseph was - although he may have been fostered out to someone else.

thanks