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As you know the lady, how about asking her for a copy of the marriage certificate? :-)
Then you can mutually share information.

If you post on that board, or any other you can find, someone at some time in the future might see it and respond. Always worth a try.

Jayne...
Bart. married Cath.Langan..as per the info.you have for the Marriage Cert details..

I think I will buy the marriage cert and go from there. Thanks very very much x

I have read this and I know the lady - she never got any replies from this which made the family think he perhaps didnt come from Clairemorris after all.

You're welcome :-)

So, off you go and make contact and post on that board :-)

oh my goodness !! Joy you are brilliant !

meant marriage cert.

When in doubt, put the person's name in google and see what comes up - I tried Bartholomew Banks born Ireland and this appeared:

http://towns.mayo-ireland.ie/[email protected]@.ee89166
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I am trying to trace my husband's great great grandfather. We think he was born in Claremorris in 1843 . His father was called James Banks. At some stage the family went to live in England and BB married a Catherine Langan.One of his grand daughters was born in claremorris(Ellen Burns)the rest of the 10 children where born in Oldham.I am so excited to have got this far I do hope someone can help.

so is there no way of finding out about him when he was in Ireland. Should I buy the birth certificate to see if that gives me any more ?

I found his and Catherines marriage Oldham June 1870
8d1017

His marriage - unfortunately Catherine is missing from the list - if you order the cert you'll get her name.
Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Banks Bartholomew Oldham 8d 1017
Holt Thomas Oldham 8d 1017
LORD Liza Oldham 8d 1017



Sons birth
Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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BANKS Bartholomew Saddleworth 9a 258

and death
Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Banks Bartholomew 14 Saddleworth 9a 189

His death
Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Banks Bartholomew 47 Saddleworth 9a 173

Catherine's death
Deaths Mar 1884 (>99%)
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BANKS Catherine 29 Saddleworth 9a 161

Correction - 1864.

Happy hunting :-)

http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/civilregistration.htm
Synopsis
Compulsory civil registration of non-Roman Catholic marriages began on April 1st, 1845. The registration of births, deaths and all marriages commenced on January 1st, 1864. The General Register Office (GRO), holds copies of all civil records for the whole of Ireland, from the commencement of registration, up to and including the year 1921.

thanks Joy .

Unfortunately civil registration started later in Ireland than it did in England, that is 1865.

I cannot find a marriage for him in free BMD and do not have access to ancestry site - maybe someone could search there for their marriage.

oops that is the 1881 census lol not 1871 . I am rubbish at this !

I couldn't find him in 1871 :-)

1881
BANKS, Bartholomew Head Married M 38 1843 Cotton Jobber Ireland
BANKS, Catharine Wife Married F 38 1843 Oldham Lancashire
BANKS, Mary Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Oldham Lancashire
BANKS, Winneford Daughter Single F 2 1879 Lancashire
BANKS, Bartholomew Son Single M 0 1881 Lancashire
MORRAN, John Boarder Single M 11 1870 Scholar Oldham Lancashire

RG number:
RG11 Piece:4362 Folio:74 Page:10

I cant find him in 1881 but that is him widowed in 1891 yes !!

So in 1881 they are here - New Road, Saddleworth?

And in 1891 he is widowed and here - 2, Greenwood Street, Saddleworth, Springhead, Mossley?

ok I dont know how to copy the details from the census straight on to here so here goes..
Bartholemew Banks Head age 38 Cotton Jobber b Ireland
Catherine Banks Wife age 38 b Lancs Oldham
Mary Banks daughter age 9 b Lancs Oldham
Winifred Banks daughter age 2 b Lees , Oldham

Civil Parish of Saddleworth
Town/Village County End
Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns Hey

Hope this helps . Thanks

Okay, tell us what you have found in the 1871 census, please? Thanks.