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1861 census
Please could anyone make out the names of Joseph and Hannah Medleys children living in Werneth Oldham Lancashire.

Hannah was born 1813 Underwood Nottingham. Cotton Reeler.



Can anyone find them in 1871 please.

Thank you

Shirlock

this one?

: Joseph Medley
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Medley
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Medley 54
Hannah Medley 48
Alice Medley 22
Sally Medley 11
William Medley 8
Graveland Medley 5
Melvina Medley 4
Levina Medley 11 MO
Hezechiel Gregory 48
Henry Briggs 36

He is living next door to John Medley 1833 Cotton Spinnerborn Oldham Wife Martha they are in Timber st Werneth

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)



MEDLEY Malina Oldham 8d 490

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
MEDLEY Lavinia Oldham 8d 497

Thank you for finding them.

I would like to know what the name of the children are I don't think for a minute one was Graveland. I thought someone would be able to make it out.

I would also like to find the family on the 1871 census.

deaths
Joseph Henry Medley 1864 Oldham Greater Manchester, Lancashire
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Sally Medley 1864 Oldham Greater Manchester, Lancashire
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William Henry Medley 1864 Oldham Greater Manchester, Lancashire
View Record
Lavina Medley 1865 Oldham Greater Manchester, Lancashire

possible

Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%)


MEDLEY Joseph Henry Oldham 8d 334


Deaths Sep 1865 (>99%)


Medley Lavina Oldham 8d 411

Hello

Thank you for that info 3 of these children were Joseph and Hannahs
children. It was the time of the cotton famine in Oldham when most were out of work.



I do know from Sallys death cert they were in Oldham in 1864. I just cannot find any sign of them on the 1871.

Shirlock

From Lancsbmd - with MMN:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
MEDLEY Malina Oldham Below Town Oldham WIDDALL

BUT

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
MEDLEY Lavina Oldham Below Town Oldham CHADDERTON

Can't find a marriage for Hannah and Joseph... was working on her marrying again before the 1871 so looking for her maiden name .

Thank you Potty

The one with Chadderton is correct.

Shirlock

re names given by Potty

Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)

Medley John Manchester 8d 592
Widdall Martha Manchester 8d 592

I have the marriage thanks 1863

I think they decided to get married so they could get poor relief.

Shirlock

Thought possibly this could this be "Graveland" but there is an Amanda of the right age living next door with John Medley and a 1 year old Melina, who going by the MMN must be the 1859 Malina

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856

MEDLEY Amanda Oldham Below Town Oldham WIDDALL

if you have the marriage Shirlock, what is the maiden name? if that is Josephs death in '64, then Hannah may have remarried by 1871?

It says daughter on the census though.

This is the next door family:

1861 England Census
Civil parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Timber St
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 28

Household schedule number: 112

John Medley 28 Oldham, Lancashire, England Head M Cotton Spinner
Martha Medley 25 Oldham, Lancashire, England Wife M Cotton Frame Tenter
Amanda Medley 4 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter
Melina Medley 1 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter
Jacob Medley 22 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son [Bro] M Cotton Spinner
Pricilla Medley 18 Oldham, Lancashire, England Sister M Cotton Speer? Tenter
Rebecca Slott 19 Oldham, Lancashire, England Visitor U Cotton Piecer

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3013; Folio: 15; Page: 23; GSU roll: 543065.

[Jacob's image says rel=Bro]


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MEDLEY Jacob Chadderton Oldham WHITEHEAD CHAD/1/129


1841 England Census
Civil parish: Prestwich Cum Oldham
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Pice? Nook
Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham below Town

Joseph Medley 30 Lancashire, England Spinner
Betty Medley 30 Lancashire, England
Jenny Medley 10 Lancashire, England
John Medley 5 Lancashire, England
Jacob Medley 3 Lancashire, England

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 547; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Prestwich Cum Oldham; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 25; Page: 44; GSU roll: 306931.


Makes one wonder, eh?

look at this

Name: John W. Rowlinson
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 29 Jun 1898
Death Place: Lowell, Massachusetts
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1877
Birthplace: Lowell
Occupation: Clerk
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Wm.
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Graveland Medley
Mother's Birthplace: England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06863-2
System Origin: Massachusetts-EASy
Source Film Number: 961525
Reference Number: v 482 p 256
Collection: Massachusetts Deaths and Burials, 1795-1910

1870 United States Federal Census
about Amanda Medley
Name: Amanda Medley
Birth Year: abt 1857
Age in 1870: 13
Birthplace: England
Home in 1870: Lowell Ward 3, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Post Office: Lowell
Household Members: Name Age
John Medley 38
Martha Medley 36
Amanda Medley 13
Melina Medley 10
Job T Medley 8
Esther A Medley 3
Alice E Medley 2/12
David Hatfield 47
Joseph Hatfield 20



1880 United States Federal Census
about Martha Medley
Name: Martha Medley
Home in 1880: West Boylston, Worcester, Massachusetts
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's name: John Medley
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeps House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
John Medley 48
Martha Medley 46
Joseph Thomas Medley 18
Etta A. Medley 13

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Mathew Medley 24 Jul 1865 abt 1836 Liverpool, England English Constantine
Amanda Medley 24 Jul 1865 abt 1858 Liverpool, England English Constantine
Milena Medley 24 Jul 1865 abt 1860 Liverpool, England English Constantine
Job T Medley 24 Jul 1865 abt 1862 Liverpool, England English Constantine

Name: Mathew Medley
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1865
Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Constantine


Joseph Medley 24 Jun 1864 abt 1829 Liverpool, England English Quesnel
John Medley 24 Jun 1864 abt 1836 Liverpool, England English Quesnel
Allice Medley 24 Jun 1864 abt 1838 Liverpool, England English Quesnel

Name: Joseph Medley
Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1864
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Quesnel

[It's not clear that Allice is with the other 2]