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Hannah

Hannah Report 28 Aug 2010 16:46

Thats ok, i'll give all the info i can! there is no ocupation listed for Mary Theresa and the other witness was William Walton

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 23:37

sorry to keep coming back with extra questions but you did not have the marriage cert last time so were not sure of some things. Was Mary's occupation listed and who was the other witness please.

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 22:26

its just ribchester lancs and james address is dilworth, longridge.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 22:24

what was Mary Theresa's address when she married please

incidentally that Ulverston census is the Stevenson/Cowell one - both john & Mary are registered with mmn = Cowell

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 22:18

more likely to have been Ellen's daughter Ellen age c16 in 188

Richard GREGSON M Male 54 Preston, Lancashire, England Spinner Cotton
Ellen GREGSON M Female 52 Preston, Lancashire, England
John GREGSON U Male 20 Preston, Lancashire, England Piecer Cotton
James GREGSON U Male 18 Preston, Lancashire, England Van Driver
Margaret GREGSON U Female 12 Preston, Lancashire, England Nurse Girl
Ellen GREGSON U Female 9 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 6 Ratcliffe Cellar
Census Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342015
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4240 / 28
Page Number 17

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 22:10

Jan I think this is probably that Adam Stevenson whose death you found in Ulverston - as his daughter Mary is age 6 in 1881 (born c1875) it is unlikely he had a daughter Mary in 1867

Adam STEVENSON Head M Male 37 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Foreman Engine Fitter At Works
Mary STEVENSON Wife M Female 34 Preston, Lancashire, England
John STEVENSON Son Male 10 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar
Mary STEVENSON Daur Female 6 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar
Grace STEVENSON Daur Female 4 Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Elizth. PENNY Serv Girl Female 14 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Domestic Servant

Source Information:
Dwelling 54 North Lonsdale Rd
Census Place Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1342022
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4277 / 37
Page Number 37

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 22:04

AH shame! one of the witnesses at the wedding was ellen gregson and i just found this-
Mary T Gregson
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richd
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston

Ellen Gregson
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richd
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston

any link do you think?

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Aug 2010 21:55

not that one death index
Name: Theresa Mary Stevenson
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 3
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 597

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 21:28

ah Jan, thats a possibility

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Aug 2010 21:27

?????
Name: Theresa Mary Stevenson
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 306

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 21:24

could adam stevenson have been mary theresa's father but not married to her mother, and she just said he was dead at the time of her own marriage?

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 21:22

Sorry LancashireAnn, just really stuck and didnt want to confuse people with old info

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 21:20

the Stevenson - Mary Cowell marriage as in parish regs

marriage of Adam to Mary Cowell

Adam a 25 Engineer of Fox St father Daniel - contractor

Mary Cowell a 22 of Lower Pitt St father John (can't read occupation)

witnesses George Cowell & ? Dewhirst

difficult to reconcile Adam an engineer with Adam a pawnbroker!

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Aug 2010 21:19

I think this is the Adam you are looking at and so he had'nt died before she married
Name: Adam Stevenson
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 70
District: Ulverston
County: Cumbria, Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1004


image of his will says administration to Mary Stevenson widow

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 27 Aug 2010 21:17

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1177081

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1175639

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1174514

It would have been better Hannah to have updated one of your previous threads and updating the title - especially the last one above as it has 41 replies and the info people are finding for you now is the same. I remember doing quite a lot of work on this - even doing the lookups poss in parish records and there does not seem to be any new information in your post

Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 21:15

it could be- why would mary be with another family when she is so young?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Aug 2010 20:26

Could this be Adam in 1871?


Name: Adam Stephenson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:<<< Hawker

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Stephenson 27
Elizabeth Stephenson 32 Rawtensall lancashire

Possibly Mary in 1871

Name: Mary Stephenson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Richardson 47
Mary Richardson 52
Mary Stephenson 5
Mary Ann Lura Nobles 37
Laura Ellenor Nobles 17
Emily Nobles 15
Wm Robt Nobles 13
Jesse Meey Nobles 11
Walter Thos Nobles 9

Death for Adam.

Deaths Mar 1876

Stephenson Adam age 32 Preston 8e 450

Christine


Choccy

Choccy Report 27 Aug 2010 20:14


1871

STEVENSON, Adam Head M 28 1843 Lancashire VIEW
STEVENSON, Mary Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire VIEW
STEVENSON, John Son M 0 1871 Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4205 Folio:
45 Page:
17

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Preston Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Preston Address:
Lauderdale Street, Preston County:
Lancashire

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 Aug 2010 20:13


??

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
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Cowell Mary Preston 8e 543



Hannah

Hannah Report 27 Aug 2010 20:07

Hi SomersetGirl. I did think that that could be her parents and i didn order the certificate- 1868 mary cowell and adam stevenson in preston. adam is noted as an engineer and his father is noted as Daniel Stevenson. I cant seem to find a mary and adam with a mary theresa that is the right age.