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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 19:49 |
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Hi Everyone, I seemed to have hit a brick wall and i am totally stuck. I wondered if anyone might be able to help me. I have asked for help with this before about a year ago but i think i might have more info this time. My great grandfather was Joseph Bradshaw b.1895 in Alston, Preston, Lancashire. His father James Bradshaw (b. approx 1848 Dilworth, Lancashire) had been married before and had several children but married Mary Theresa Stevenson in 1888 in Longridge, Lancashire. Mary was age 19 at the time so i have worked out she must have been born about 1869. On her marriage certificate it states her father was Adam Stevenson, a pawnbroker who was deceased. I have found the census records for after the marriage, on some mary does not show as Mary Theresa but Mary E however the rest of the family is correct and also on the 1911 census Mary Theresa Bradshaw shows with her family including my great grandfather. I cant seem to find a birth for Mary or her father Adam anywhere or any census records showing them before she married. Its really weird, like they never existed before she married! I am hoping you guys might be able to help me as you all seem real experts when it comes to finding information! any help at all would be really appreciated. thanks! hannah
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Choccy
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27 Aug 2010 19:52 |
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for reference
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BRADSHAW, James Head Married M 54 1847 Wood Sawyer Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Mary T Wife Married F 34 1867 Preston Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, James Son Single M 21 1880 Navvy Ribchester Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, George Son M 11 1890 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, John Wm Son M 10 1891 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Robert Son M 8 1893 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Joseph Son M 6 1895 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Bertie Son M 1 1900 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 3959 Folio: 81 Page: 9 Registration District: Preston Sub District: Alston Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: Longridge St Lawrecne Civil Parish: Dilworth Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Bottaurs, Dilworth, Longridge County: Lancashire
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BRADSHAW, Mary Theresa Wife Widow F 43 1868 Preston VIEW BRADSHAW, John W Son Single M 19 1892 Cotton Mill Weaver Bottoms VIEW BRADSHAW, Joseph Son Single M 15 1896 Cotton Mill Weaver Bottoms VIEW BRADSHAW, Bertie Son Single M 11 1900 School Bottoms VIEW POPE, William Boarder Single M 22 1889 Bobbin Mill Labourer Dutton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 25343 Reference: RG14PN25343 RG78PN1450 RD476 SD6 ED4 SN143 Registration District: Preston Sub District: Alston Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Dilworth Address: Bottoms Longridge County: Lancashire
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 19:55 |
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Hi Choccy, that is the Mary i am looking for yes. seems to be much easier to find her once she is married.
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Choccy
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27 Aug 2010 19:59 |
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BRADSHAW, James Head Married M 44 1847 Wood Sawyer Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Mary J Wife Married F 25 1866 Preston Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Thomas Son Single M 20 1871 Bobbin Turner Ribchester Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Edward Son Single M 18 1873 Bobbin Turner Ribchester Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Arthur Son M 15 1876 Weaver Cotton Ribchester Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, James Son M 12 1879 Scholar Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, Mary Ellen Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Dilworth Lancashire VIEW BRADSHAW, George Son M 1 1890 Dilworth Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 3446 Folio: 78 Page: 20 Registration District: Preston Sub District: Alston Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Lawrence Civil Parish: Dilworth Municipal Borough: Address: 14, Bottoms, Dilworth, Longridge County: Lancashire
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 20:02 |
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Hi Choccy, i believe that is also the family, with the T being mistaken for a J? maybe?
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 20:07 |
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Hi SomersetGirl. I did think that that could be her parents and i didn order the certificate- 1868 mary cowell and adam stevenson in preston. adam is noted as an engineer and his father is noted as Daniel Stevenson. I cant seem to find a mary and adam with a mary theresa that is the right age.
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Choccy
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27 Aug 2010 20:13 |
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Births Mar 1867 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cowell Mary Preston 8e 543
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Choccy
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27 Aug 2010 20:14 |
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STEVENSON, Adam Head M 28 1843 Lancashire VIEW STEVENSON, Mary Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire VIEW STEVENSON, John Son M 0 1871 Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG10 Piece: 4205 Folio: 45 Page: 17 Registration District: Preston Sub District: Preston Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Preston Municipal Borough: Preston Address: Lauderdale Street, Preston County: Lancashire
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ChristineinPortugal
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27 Aug 2010 20:26 |
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Could this be Adam in 1871?
Name: Adam Stephenson Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:<<< Hawker
Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Adam Stephenson 27 Elizabeth Stephenson 32 Rawtensall lancashire
Possibly Mary in 1871
Name: Mary Stephenson Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Disability: View Image Registration district: Preston Sub registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Household Members: Name Age Robert Richardson 47 Mary Richardson 52 Mary Stephenson 5 Mary Ann Lura Nobles 37 Laura Ellenor Nobles 17 Emily Nobles 15 Wm Robt Nobles 13 Jesse Meey Nobles 11 Walter Thos Nobles 9
Death for Adam.
Deaths Mar 1876
Stephenson Adam age 32 Preston 8e 450
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 21:15 |
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it could be- why would mary be with another family when she is so young?
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lancashireAnn
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27 Aug 2010 21:17 |
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1177081
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1175639
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1174514
It would have been better Hannah to have updated one of your previous threads and updating the title - especially the last one above as it has 41 replies and the info people are finding for you now is the same. I remember doing quite a lot of work on this - even doing the lookups poss in parish records and there does not seem to be any new information in your post
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jansmith
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27 Aug 2010 21:19 |
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I think this is the Adam you are looking at and so he had'nt died before she married Name: Adam Stevenson Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Year of Registration: 1913 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 70 District: Ulverston County: Cumbria, Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 1004
image of his will says administration to Mary Stevenson widow
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lancashireAnn
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27 Aug 2010 21:20 |
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the Stevenson - Mary Cowell marriage as in parish regs
marriage of Adam to Mary Cowell
Adam a 25 Engineer of Fox St father Daniel - contractor
Mary Cowell a 22 of Lower Pitt St father John (can't read occupation)
witnesses George Cowell & ? Dewhirst
difficult to reconcile Adam an engineer with Adam a pawnbroker!
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 21:22 |
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Sorry LancashireAnn, just really stuck and didnt want to confuse people with old info
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 21:24 |
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could adam stevenson have been mary theresa's father but not married to her mother, and she just said he was dead at the time of her own marriage?
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27 Aug 2010 21:27 |
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????? Name: Theresa Mary Stevenson Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 306
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 21:28 |
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ah Jan, thats a possibility
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jansmith
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27 Aug 2010 21:55 |
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not that one death index Name: Theresa Mary Stevenson Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Year of Registration: 1871 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 3 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 597
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Hannah
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27 Aug 2010 22:04 |
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AH shame! one of the witnesses at the wedding was ellen gregson and i just found this- Mary T Gregson Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richd Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Preston
Ellen Gregson Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richd Gender: Female Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Preston
any link do you think?
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lancashireAnn
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27 Aug 2010 22:10 |
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Jan I think this is probably that Adam Stevenson whose death you found in Ulverston - as his daughter Mary is age 6 in 1881 (born c1875) it is unlikely he had a daughter Mary in 1867
Adam STEVENSON Head M Male 37 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Foreman Engine Fitter At Works Mary STEVENSON Wife M Female 34 Preston, Lancashire, England John STEVENSON Son Male 10 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar Mary STEVENSON Daur Female 6 Preston, Lancashire, England Scholar Grace STEVENSON Daur Female 4 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Elizth. PENNY Serv Girl Female 14 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Domestic Servant
Source Information: Dwelling 54 North Lonsdale Rd Census Place Ulverston, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1342022 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4277 / 37 Page Number 37
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