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Here's the Adeline Isabella Mackie born in 1850. She is still living with her parents in 1881 so she can be eliminated.

Name: Adeline Isabella Mackie
Age: 8 MO
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Lewis
Mother's Name: Adeline Cokshott
Gender: Female
Where born: Sittingbourne, Kent, England

Civil parish: Sittingbourne
Town: Sittingbourne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Milton
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
William Lewis Mackie 26
Adeline Cokshott Mackie 20
Adeline Isabella Mackie 8 MO
George Offor 24
Emma Offor 23
Emma Offor 11 MO
Isabella Cheeseman 20
Susama Snelling 15
Sarah Kippen 21

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1627; Folio: 158; Page: 25; GSU roll: 193528

Thank you all for your excellent hard work.. since going wireless have had lots of disconnections - think my friend has sorted this problem out now ... i will be ordering a few certificates now and see what that throws up ..thanks

Sorry-been off cooking!
Well done,everyone! Looks good to me!!

Maureen

Sticking my nose in;

1871 England Census about Isabel Miller
Name: Isabel Miller
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Parlour Maid (Maid)
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, South Wales
Civil parish: Ticehurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Flimwell St Augustine
Town: Flimwell and Ticehurst
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Ticehurst
Sub-registration district: Ticehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles I Eagleton 42
Elizabeth H Creed 66
Henry E Pope 33
Hannah Uppold 6 months
Jane Pegden 51
Isabel Miller 23
Caroline Remp 18


Dee x

Hang on!
What about this one?

1861
Name: Isabella Millar
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Wales

Civil parish: Bristol St James and St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Montpelier St Andrew
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mackie 36
Hannah Maria Mackie 35
George Edd Mackie 8
John Hy Mackie 7
Annie Maria A Mackie 6
Agnes Charlotte Mackie 4
Ellis Charles Mackie 1
Mary Ann Lonon 20
Isabella Millar 15

Snap Mary!

possible 1861
Name: Letitia Skuse
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: St Winnells, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: Stapleton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Stapleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members:
Name Age
James Skuse 48 born: Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire
Letitia Skuse 47
Thomas Skuse 19 born: Winterbourne, Gloucestershire
James Skuse 14
Eliza Skuse 11

..........so if this is mam, then where was Adeline in 1861?
Come on Maureen, we're waiting!

There was this marriage Letitia Miller to James Skuse in Bristol 1860
On 1861 census says Letitia born St Swinnels!! Pembrokeshire.

James was married before and his children are with them on 1861 bit no Adeline /Isabella.

Letitia Skuse died in Avon Bristol Dec 1869.James Skuse 1814-1866.

So if you have Adelines marriage certificate does it say her dad Robert deceased?

Maryb

Could Letitia have remarried?

Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Knight Matilda Bristol 6a 122
xxxx Miller Letitia Bristol 6a 122
Skuse James Bristol 6a 122
White William Bristol 6a 122

It would be interesting to get that marriage certificate!

Now we're left with the problem -if it's her, was she born a Lewis or a Miller? And when?

Maureen

Ah!
So my marriage looks to be correct after all!
Well done Maureen!

I'm having trouble finding a birth for Adeline?
The only ones I can find for someone called Adeline Isabella at the correct time are these:-
Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
Mackie Adeline Isabella Milton 5 416
The district Milton is in the county of Kent

Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
Barnard Adeline Isabella Barnard Ross 26 *157
The district Ross spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire and Hereford and Worcester

LOL,Maryb-that was my "twisted" reasoning as well!

Maureen

Hi Maureen,
that looks like it i would say considering the marriages posted for 1848 which included lettitia Lewis.

I was thinking with the name lettitia the that would be the likely one,as Adeline is quite a fancy name as well if you get my drift.

Maryb

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1848 (>99%)
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BARGE Harriet Bristol 11 171
LEWIS Letitia Bristol 11 171 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Merritt James Bristol 11 171
MILLER Robert Bristol 11 171 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PRICE Sarah Bristol 11 171
STOCKS Henry Bristol 11 171

Mary - she has used Isabel on the 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census records. It only seems to be her marriage that has Adeline Isabel.

Just throwing this one in:
1851 census transcription details for: 5, Humphrys Street, St Mary, Cardiff

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2455 Folio: 456 Page: 89


Reg. District: Cardiff Sub District: Cardiff
Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 4G
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary City/Municipal Borough: Cardiff
Address: 5, Humphrys Street, St Mary, Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
MILLER, Letitia Head Married F 32 1819 Mariners Wife (Captain)
Pembrokeshire
MILLER, Adaline J Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Cardiff
Glamorganshire
DAVIES, James Lodger Unmarried M 32 1819 Surveyor
Lancaster
WATERS, Richard Lodger Unmarried M 24 1827 Mason
Penhoe
Devonshire
PRITT, James Lodger Unmarried M 22 1829 Carpenter
Penhoe
Devonshire
BERRY, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 25 1826 Mason
Ilpacombe
Devonshire

Maureen

They are proving very elusive,I cant find Robert or Adeline.

If she used Isabel in 1911 then maybe thats what we should be looking for.

I tend to trust 1911 info more because it is written in their own hand.

Maryb

Thank You All - anything else is much appreciated

Sorry Adeline I Pattersons death.

1911 John Ashfield Patterson born ireland 1855 head gardener
Isabel 1852 CARDIFF married 33 years.
Percy son born 1890 Allerton Liverpool apprentice dock clerk
Roselands cottages 57,Woodlands Road Aigburth Liverpool.

Maryb