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So........McCarthy was a complete red herring!

Choccy,

Yes, Margaret is a prominent name in the family, this looks like you have nailed it.

Been looking for variant surnames of patchit and everything. You're great.

Thanks very much.

Ben.

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Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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LEWIS Mary Elizabeth Chester le S. 10a 743
Patchit George Henry Chester le S. 10a 743



Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%)
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PATCHIT George Henry 23 Durham 10a 258



Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
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Barras Phoebe Chester-le-S. 10a 1016
******CLARK Joseph W Chester-le-S. 10a 1016
Hutchinson William Chester-le-S. 10a 1016
******Patchit Mary E Chester-le-S. 10a 1016



Births Mar 1915 (99%)
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Clark Margaret H Lewis Chester-le-S. 10a 1234



do these names mean anything ?

Yes, this is definitely the Mary Elizabeth Lewis I'm looking for. That is the correct census entry and birth.

Still searching...

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1891

LEWIS, Joseph Head Married M 43 1848 Coal Miner
Chester-Le-Street
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Margaret Wife Married F 42 1849
Co Durham Elemore Vale VIEW
LEWIS, John Son Single M 21 1870 Coal Miner
Co Durham Pelton VIEW
LEWIS, Robert Son Single M 19 1872 Coal Miner
Birtley
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1875
Birtley
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Margaret J Daughter Single F 14 1877
Birtley
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Joseph W Son Single M 9 1882 Scholar
Birtley
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Charles Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar
Co Durham Herrington VIEW
LEWIS, Catherine A Daughter F 4 1887
Birtley
Co Durham VIEW
LEWIS, Isabella Daughter F 2 1889
Newbottle
Co Durham VIEW
*******LEWIS, Mary E Daughter F 0 (8M) 1891
Newbottle
Co Durham VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4114 Folio:
45 Page:
23

Registration District:
Houghton Le Spring Sub District:
Houghton Le Spring Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Newbottle

Civil Parish:
Newbottle Municipal Borough:
Address:
4, South Street, Newbottle, Sunnyside County:
Durham

How about telling us the details of one of Mary's children?

Or even her parents?

Is this the birth to which you refer?

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Lewis Mary Elizabeth Houghton 10a 488

hi Flick,

To make matters a hell of a lot more confusing, my Mam and Dad turned out to be 3rd cousins lol!

Mary Elizabeth Lewis and John James McAdam are my father's Grandparents on my paternal line, hence my name Ben McAdam.

That marriage in Houghton-le-Spring isn't the same Mary Elizabeth Lewis as I am looking for.

Basically to make things easy to understand, my Grandfather McAdam (Dad's Father) and my Grandfather Lewis (Mam's Father) were 2nd cousins, they're parents were full 1st cousins.

So we can defo rule out this McCarthy as the husband to one of my Grandfather's Aunty's. Must be another Lewis marrying another McCarthy :S Popular surnames I suppose.

Lewis is my mother's maiden name and her paternal line backwards.

My Grandfather Lewis remembered McCarthy, but couldn't remember specifically full names, I already have Mary Elizabeth Lewis in my tree born c1890 in Newbottle, County Durham and when searching the Marriage certs I came across the record above, put two and two together which unfortunately for me has turned out to be five :(

I'm going to keep searching for the marriage for Mary Elizabeth Lewis plus any of her sisters if they married McCarthy too as a matter of co-incidence.

Problem is I'm looking for Mary Elizabeth Atkinson and Mary Elizabeth Patchit to no avail too.

I'll come back.

Ben.

Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Ahern Catherine Houghton 10a 660
HOPPER Ambrose Houghton 10a 660
McCARTHY John Houghton 10a 660
Warin Mary Elizabeth Houghton 10a 660

From freebmd........

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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Crebo Sarah Jane Houghton 10a 715
GIBBONS Ann Houghton 10a 715
McCARTHY John Houghton 10a 715
TROBB William Houghton 10a 715
TROBE William Houghton 10a 715

OK.......so he remembered the name......but where did you get the info about her 'maiden name'?

Do you have birth details for a child?

THIS is the correct area for NEWBOTTLE

Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Lewis Mary E McAdam Houghton 10a 1078
McAdam John J Lewis Houghton 10a 1078

No guessing, my grandfather remembered Mary Elizabeth McCarthy - the marriage record showed Chester-le-Street and not Houghton I looked at.

So you were GUESSING?

AArrggghhhhh!!

The only Mary Mccarthys of approx age in Gateshead in 1911 are SINGLE

Can you do some checking, Ben......then come back to us with what you find out

Argh - looks like the wrong marriage, sorry about that....will research which marriage it is and come back, thanks for your help :)

Ben.

Mary Elizabeth Lewis didn't marry John McCarthy on this record......they are in different districts

Record
John Smith Atkinson 1908 Chester Le Street Durham
View Record
Susannah Hitchen 1908 Chester Le Street Durham
View Record
Mary Elizabeth Lewis 1908 Chester Le Street Durham
View Record
Mary Elizabeth Lowis 1908 Chester Le Street Durham
View Record
John McCarthy 1908 Houghton Le Spring Durham
View Record
George Henry Patchit 1908 Chester Le Street Durham

there's this, but looks like John McCarthy wasn't one of the grooms (wrong district)


Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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ATKINSON John Smith Chester le S. 10a 743
HITCHEN Susannah Chester le S. 10a 743
*****LEWIS Mary Elizabeth Chester le S. 10a 743
LOWIS Mary Elizabeth Chester le S. 10a 743
*****McCarthy John Houghton 10a 743
Patchit George Henry Chester le S. 10a 743

When was the marriage?