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1861

Name: John Kennedy
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margret
Gender: Male
Where born: Stirling
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow St John
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 352
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 8
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1861_102
Household Members: Name Age
Mrs Margret Kennedy 28 Head, Sewing Machine Worker, b. Ireland
John Kennedy 12
Margret Smith 1 6 Mo Daughter (says b. Cotton - think this should be Calton?)
Mrs Oniel 48 Boarder, b. Yorkshire

Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow St John; ED: 47; Page: 2; Line: 13; Roll CSSCT1861_102; Year: 1861.



If Margaret was unable to work when she was pregnant with her daughter, she may have claimed Poor Relief. These records are held at The Mitchell Library in Glasgow and are indexed. They are not available online. They can prove very useful when researching Irish ancestors as many of the records contain details of the exact places of their birth in Ireland, parents names and in Margaret's case would possible contain details of John's parentage and the place of their marriage.


It may also be worth checking on Scotlandspeople for a death for John although Statutory Registration did not begin until 1855 in Scotland.

Brilliant thank you :-)
So does that indicate her maiden name was O'Neil?

Here you are.............Margaret's maiden name is on this

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
APPLEFORD William John Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool O'NEIL PLF/27/92

1881 for INFO

Name: Margaret Appleford
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Woolwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 17 Chesnut PA
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Shirt Maker

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Appleford 47 born IRELAND
Margaret Appleford 48
Wm.G. Appleford 9 born FLEETWOOD, Lancs (Image shows second initial to be J)
Mary Ann Appleford 7
John Kennedy 31
Margaret Real 67 Lodger, b. Ireland.......image looks like O'neal

Last one first.......Margaret's father's name (if known) will be on the record of her marriage to Appleford

Hi, I've hit a brick wall with my mother's great grandfather John Kennedy. All we know is that he was born in Ireland(presumably sometime between 1800 and 1835 ,as he fathered John in 1850) and was a soldier stationed at Stirling Castle around the time his son, John Jospeh Kennedy was born in 1850. According to the son, John Joseph's military records and marriage certificate, Father John was also a soldier and is deceased by JJ's enlistment into the army in 1865(in fact by the 1861 census). His mother, Margaret, was remarried by 1867 and is listed as next of kin, Margaret Appleford. I've located the mother later in Woolwich with ther new husband but can't find anything more about the father John.
Don't know when he was born but presume between 1800 and 1835
Don't know which part of Ireland he was born in.
Don't know when he died or where, but must have been between 1849 and 1865.
Don't know which part of the army he served with other than he was at stirling in 1850.
Margaret's maiden name was O'Neil, born abt 1833, in Ireland, as was her second husband John Appleford.
Any ideas?
Thank you in advance :-)

Edit,. just updated a few things in the original post