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Thanks Ozi

You have been a great help

Helen

Another path you could follow is the servant Louisa Ivan. Often female relatives were employed to help out with young families.

As you would expect she has been mistranscribed and I believe her surname is Green. If you look at the image you can understand why the confusion. However I can't find anybody with that name in 1851. None of the Louisas born c1847 in Bisley look anything like they could be mistranscribed as Ivan.

Ozi

Unfortunately their marriage would have been before registration so you will need to search the parish records. Louisa was born in Blagdon Somerset according to the census. So they may have been married there, or at Winterbourne.

Of course they could've been married anywhere else depending on where Louisa was living at the time.

Ozi

Hello

Can anyone tell me what Louisa's surname might have been?

1861 England Census

Name: Robert Tucker
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Winterbourne
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Stapleton

Name Age
Robert Tucker 64
Louisa Tucker 41
Robert Tucker 21
Louisa Ivan 14

Many thanks

This is all absolutely correct Ozbird - clarifies all information I have copied from others and helps me to understand how it all fits together. I found Robert Tucker 1872 but not his family. I don't think Robert HL Tucker is the right one - my own rather pathetic searches on BMD show Bob living away: RG12 1993/70 Page 12 and RG11 2508/63 Page 12. Thanks for your help, hope you can help me again when convenient

There is this:

1881
Robert H.L. Tucker abt 1869 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Exeter St Mary Major, Devon - scholar at Cathedral School.

1891
Robert H L Tucker abt 1869 Montpelsar, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Clifton, Gloucestershire - bank clerk

There's no Robert/Bob Tucker with them in 1881 or 1891. Are you sure they're his parents?


1881 England Census
Name: Robert Tucker
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterbourn, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Winterbourne
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Bacon Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Ag Lb
Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: Stapleton
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Tucker 40
Mary Tucker 35
Sarah Tucker 12
Elinor Tucker 7
John Tucker 5
Phobe Tucker



1891 England Census
Name: Robert Tucker
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Winterbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Winterbourne
Town: Winterbourne
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Bacon Lane

Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: Stapleton
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Tucker 50
Mary Tucker 45 - laundress
John Tucker 14
Phoebe Tucker 10

Ozibird (by the way ... love your name!)

This is really good info. thanks for your help

Thanks for this Brummiejan - I started to think this could be complicated in that she could have been Louisa's daughter from a previous marriage! Great, well done.

In 1871 they are living with the Lutons on Haydens Farm with daughter Sarah 2½ years. This is mistranscribed as 23 years.


Ozi

OK, friends!

Louisa was a servant by the way.

jan

Thanks Brummiejan, this looks to be correct. Louisa Ivan could be a lodger

This is far more information than I had originally, thanks Ozibird

Really sorrry, I was still typing my first response whilst you were searching and providing information. Of course I am grateful to you both .... just wanted to know whether Robert Tucker's information was accurate as I didn't know where this information came from. The original dates didn't tie in.

Thanks very much for your help

CLIFTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : Gloucestershire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1877 (succeeded by Barton Regis district).
Sub-districts : Ashley; Clifton; St. George; St. Phillip & St. Jacob; Stapleton; Westbury.
GRO volumes : XI (1837-51); 6a (1852-77).


Includes Winterbourne

I'm not sure if you want this now.

Name: Robert Tucker
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Jan 1835
Baptism/Christening Place: Winterbourne, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: Robert Tucker
Mother's Name: Louisa
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02432-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1596177
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975



Perhaps the first Robert died and then this one, but there is no saying this is Robert & Louisa's son.
Births Mar 1838
TUCKER Robert Clifton 11 267

I don't understand this response at all. Firstly you gave the wrong birth county but have not acknowledged this. And you neglected to tell us that you already had his parents' names. Secondly the above person is obviously him. So what else do you want? A word of thanks might be in order too.
Jan

Hi Ladies

I have Bob Tucker in my family tree (my great grand father). He was born 1871 in Winterborne. I purchased his birth certificate and he was registered in the District of Clifton. Bob's mother was registered as Mary Tucker formerly Luton. Bob's father's name is Robert Tucker, occupation listed is farmer.

One of the members on Genes Reunited has Robert Tucker and son Bob Tucker in her tree and has shared this with me. There looks to be some discrepancy but this is definately a match. She has Robert Tucker's birth year listed as 1841 (his father, in her tree as circa 1798, married 1836 to Louisa circa 1820). I have assumed that Robert Tucker 1871's birth was also registered in Clifton. Hope this helps

1851 England Census

Name: Robert Tucker
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Lousia
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Winterbourne
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Westbury

Robert Tucker 54
Lousia Tucker 36
Eleanor Tucker 14
Robert Tucker 13
John Adams 54

If so:

1861 England Census

Name: Robert Tucker
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Winterbourne
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Stapleton

Name Age
Robert Tucker 64
Louisa Tucker 41
Robert Tucker 21
Louisa Ivan 14