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Lucy Emily Clark Born 20.10.1885 London or nearby

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Carol

Carol Report 20 Aug 2010 15:29

I am trying to find my Grandmothers family Lucy Emily Clark Born 1885 some of my family think she was born in Middlesex. I have found the record of when she married my Grandfather Herbert Edgar Balfour on 12.2.1911 in Edmonton. They emigrated to Australia in 1954. They adopted a daughter (who would be my fathers sister) Annie Georgina Griffin born 6.4.1910 but I am unable to trace anything for this birth either. Can anyone help as to where I could look for adopted children. Many thanks Carol

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Aug 2010 15:32

Could this be her birth (sometimes people get the year of birth wrong):-

Name: Lucy Emily Clark
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 652

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Aug 2010 15:35

Formal adoption didn't start until 1927 so I doubt you will find any record of the adoption.

Kath. x

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Aug 2010 15:38

1911

BALFOUR, Herbert Head Married M 21 1890 Motor Driver London Wood Green VIEW
BALFOUR, Lucy Wife Married F 26 1885 London Stoke Newington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7256 Reference:
RG14PN7256 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED11 SN219

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Wood Green Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Wood Green

Address:
73 Salisbury Road Wood Green County:
Middlesex

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Aug 2010 15:38


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Lucy Emily Clark
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Spouse Name: Herbert Edgar Balfour
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Feb 1911
Parish: St Michael, Wood Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: Henry Clark
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Alfred Balfour



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Michael, Wood Green, Register of marriages, DRO/069, Item 014

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2010 15:42


1891 England Census
about Lucy E Clark
Name: Lucy E Clark
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henery J
Mother's Name: Susanah
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henery J Clark 31
Susanah Clark 28
Lilian S Clark 8
Lucy E Clark 6
Beartrice Clark 4

Choccy

Choccy Report 20 Aug 2010 15:49


this Annie Griffin could be a possible - although age not quite right -


Person: GRIFFIN, Annie
Institution: Children's Hospital, CHILDRENS HOSPITAL

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GRIFFIN, Annie Patient F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
68 Reference:
RG14PN68 RD1 SD2 ED27 SN1

Registration District:
Paddington Sub District:
Paddington Central Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Paddington

Address:
Paddington Green Paddington W County:
London



tempest

tempest Report 20 Aug 2010 15:57

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Annie Griffin
Name: Annie Griffin
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 359

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Annie Griffin
Name: Annie Griffin
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St Marylebone (1902-1977)
County: Greater London, London
Volume: 1a
Page:471

Carol

Carol Report 22 Aug 2010 08:48

Thank you all for your help, it has given me something to work on
Carol

Carol

Carol Report 22 Aug 2010 09:29

This has confirmed that I am looking at the correct family

Carol

Carol Report 22 Aug 2010 09:30

Thank you the names of the Fathers has confirmed that I have the correct family's on both sides

Carol

Carol Report 27 Sep 2010 15:12

Hi All I am still trying to find the family of Henery J Clark B 1861 i.e his parents. I can only find a trace of him in one census 1891, his wife was Susanah B1863, their children where Lilian S B1883, Lucy Emily B1885 (my Grandmother) and Beatrice B1887. Can anyone help please Carol

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2010 21:02

There are too many Henry Clark births around the right time in Mile End to be sure of which is yours.

You need to buy his marriage certificate to get his father's name:-

Name: Henry John Clark
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 893

Also on the page is Susannah Neagle.

Kath. x

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 Sep 2010 22:32


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Susannah Neagle
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Spouse Name: Henry John Clark (Brass Finisher)
Spouse Age: Full Age
Event Date: 9 Jul 1882
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets


Father of groom - William Clark - Picture Frame Maker


Carol

Carol Report 28 Sep 2010 14:26

Thank you for the information on Henery John Clark it has been a big help and I have ordered the marriage certificate Carol

Carol

Carol Report 21 Oct 2010 14:34

Henery John Clark B 1860 I have got his marriage certificate. As already mentioned he married Susannah Neagle B 1862 It gives Henery's father as William Clark Picture Frame Maker and Susannah's Father as William Neagle Ship Carpenter. But with all this information I am still unable to find Henery's family, I have looked through many many William Clark's but none shown as Picture frame maker. Any ides where I might try next. Thanks Carol

Carol

Carol Report 23 Oct 2010 15:47

I have spent another few hours trying to find a William Clark that could match Henery Clark's father ( my Great Grandfather ) do you think there is any hope of me finding him with such a common name and only his occupation. I have been able to find Susannah Neagle's family through getting the marriage certificate.
HELP Carol

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 23 Oct 2010 17:22

The trouble is that people often changed their occupation, so even though William was a Picture Frame Maker when Henry married, he may have been something else altogether in earlier years.

Were any of the witnesses at the marriage relatives of Henry? If so, perhaps you might find one of them with William in the census.

Kath. x

Carol

Carol Report 24 Oct 2010 11:34

Hi Kathleen On the marriage certificate for Henery it was only signed by Susannah's brother and sister John and Elizabeth Neagle, that is what has made it easier to trace her side of the family. If you do find anything more or can help any more it would be gratefully appreciated, thanks for your help so far. Carol

Carol

Carol Report 14 Feb 2011 14:08

I am trying to find out what could have happened to my Grandmother Lucy Emily Clark b1885 and her sisters Lilian S Clark b1883 and Beartrice Clark b1887. Their parents Henry John Clark b1859 - 1892 and Susannah Neagle b1863 - 1893 died when they where young. I have looked through Grandparents, Brother and Sister's of their parents but can find no trace. In the 1891 census they were living together in Hackney, but I cannot find them in the 1901 census. I wondered if Lucy and Beartrice went into an Orphanage. I suppose in 1901 all three of them could have been working. I know Lucy got married in 1911, I have tried to find if Lilian and Beartrice got married but no luck.
Carol