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25 Jul 2010 09:45 |
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On 1861census John Jago Born 1833, Butcher Bodmin Cornwall, wife Elizabeth b.1835, daug Amy 4 and Elly (Etty) 11 mths, living with them Jane Verran 66. This is Elizabeth's mother. On 1871 census I find John is b.1838, still a Butcher in Bodmin but changed address to Honey St. There is no mention of his wife Elizabeth, but I cannot find a death, and he has loads more children.I feel this is still my John Jago as Jane Verran is still living with them. Then on 1881 census I find John again b.1833 Butcher, Honey St. Bodmin , but now he has another wife called Elizabeth and she is 3 years older than him.He also still has 2 of his children living with him,Mary and John jnr. Could anyone tell me if the first Elizabeth did die, if so when and when did he marry the second Elizabeth, and if it is not asking too much where did all the children come from and what happened to Amy and Elly(Etty). Part of me thought they were 2 different families but Grandma Jane Verran is there all the time. I know this is a long one but please help me as I think I am going mad. Thanking all of you in anticipation.
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Astra
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25 Jul 2010 10:12 |
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Was she Elizabeth Ann perhaps
Deaths Mar 1862 (>99%)
JAGO Elizabeth Ann Bodmin 5c 61
Yes she was
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) Hitchens Richard Bodmin 5c 167 >>Jago John Bodmin 5c 167 Treleaven Hannah Bodmin 5c 167 >>Verran Elizabeth Ann Bodmin 5c 167
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:17 |
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posting for reference -
1861 (mis-transcribed)
JAGA, John Head Married M 25 1836 Butcher Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGA, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1835 ... Cornwall VIEW JAGA, Amy Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGA, Heny Daughter F 0 (11M) 1861 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW ******WINDER, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 66 1795 ... *****Lanivet *****Cornwall VIEW (IT IS JANE VERRAN ON THE ORIGINAL) ROSCORLA, Grace ... Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 Servant ... Cornwall VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 1536 Folio: 67 Page: 33 Registration District: Bodmin Sub District: 3 Bodmin Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Bodmin Municipal Borough: Bodmin Address: Crockwell Street, Bodmin County: Cornwall
1871
JAGO, John Head M 33 1838 Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Bessie Daughter F 16 1855 Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Annie Daughter F 15 1856 Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Mary Daughter F 5 1866 Cornwall VIEW JAGO, John A Son M 4 1867 Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Mabel Daughter F 0 1871 Cornwall VIEW VERRAN, Jane Visitor F 74 1797 Cornwall VIEW BROWN, Elizth Servant F 20 1851 Cornwall VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG10 Piece: 2249 Folio: 44 Page: 20 Registration District: Bodmin Sub District: Bodmin Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Bodmin Municipal Borough: Bodmin Address: Honey Street, Bodmin County: Cornwall
1881
JAGO, John Head Married M 48 1833 Butcher & Farmer Of 65 Acres Employing 1 Boy Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Elizabeth Wife Married F 51 1830 Helland Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Mary Daughter Single F 17 1864 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGO, John Son Single M 14 1867 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 2291 Folio: 39 Page: 18 Registration District: Bodmin Sub District: Bodmin Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Bodmin Municipal Borough Municipal Borough: Address: Honey St, Bodmin Municipal Borough County: Cornwall
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Vera
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25 Jul 2010 10:18 |
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???
Births Mar 1857 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jago Annie Bodmin 5c 108
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Astra
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25 Jul 2010 10:18 |
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Second marriage perhaps
Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) >>DRAYDON Elizabeth Bodmin 5c 127 DYER William Henry Bodmin 5c 127 IAGo John Bodmin 5c 127 >>>JAGO John Bodmin 5c 127 SAUNDRY Jane Bodmin 5c 127
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Astra
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25 Jul 2010 10:25 |
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This is interesting. Looking for Elizabeth Draydon and this is what comes up. She is a Seamstress at the Lunatic Asylum. Interestingly there is a John Jago there too working as a Night Watch but born 1823
Elizabeth Dreadon Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Sunpstress Gender: Female Where born: Helland, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Bodmin Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Bodmin ED, institution, or vessel: County Lunatic Asylum Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1
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Dorothy
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25 Jul 2010 10:30 |
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Thank you, everyone of you for replying so quick. Thanks to Choccy who sorted the 1861 family out, I read Verran instead of Winder and this makes more sense. They are not the same family, but why can I not find John Jago at 23yrs old on the 1861 census, I know his father was Jeremiah Jago and his mothers name was Sarah?
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Dorothy
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25 Jul 2010 10:33 |
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Sorry Astra, could you explain did Elizabeth Draydon marry John Jago or did he marry Jane Saundry as his 2nd marriage?
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:34 |
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IT IS Jane Verran on the original of the 1861 census. It has been mis-transcribed as Jane Winder.
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Here they are in 1901 with Elizabeth's sister living with them -
JAGO, John Head Married M 68 1833 Retired Butcher Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Elizabeth Wife Married F 71 1830 Helland Cornwall VIEW DRAYDON, Grace Sister Single F 67 1834 Helland Cornwall VIEW
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:38 |
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1911 census -
John is now living with his son and is a Widower -
JAGO, John A Head Married 21 years M 44 1867 Butcher Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JAGO, Elizabeth Wife Married 21 years F 46 1865 Assist In Business Leckford Hants VIEW *******JAGO, John Father Widower M 78 1833 Retired Butcher Bodmin Cornwl VIEW JAGO, John Reuben Son Single M 20 1891 Butcher Asstng In Business Bodmin Cnwl VIEW JAGO, Elizabeth Annie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Clerk In Butchers Shop Bodmin Cnwl VIEW NORTHCOTT, Mary Ellen Servant Single F 16 1895 Servant Domestic Blisland Cnwl VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 13689 Reference: RG14PN13689 RG78PN808 RD293 SD3 ED3 SN265 Registration District: Bodmin Sub District: Bodmin Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Bodmin Borough Address: Honey St Bodmin County: Cornwall
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:41 |
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'Amy' on the 1861 census was in fact Annie, who appears as Annie on the 1871 census
Births Mar 1857 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jago Annie Bodmin 5c 108
and here is Elly's birth -
Births Jun 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAGO Elly Bodmin 5c 109
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Astra
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25 Jul 2010 10:42 |
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Elizabeth Draydon looks like his second wife but you would need the marriage certificate to confirm.
This could be Hetty in 1871 with John' mother
Hetty Jago Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Bodmin, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Bodmin County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Bodmin ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Jago 67 Hetty Jago 11
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:45 |
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marriage of Annie Jago -
Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jago Annie Bodmin 5c 112 SPEAR Gregory Bodmin 5c 112
1881 census -
JACOBS, Henry Head Married M 30 1851 Organist & Pro Of Music Brading I W Hampshire VIEW JACOBS, Emma Matilda Wife Married F 32 1849 ((Organists Wife)) Hambledon Hampshire VIEW JACOBS, Henry Leicester Son Single M 5 1876 Organists Son Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JACOBS, Montague Sydney Son Single M 3 1878 Organists Son Bodmin Cornwall VIEW JACOBS, Emma Elsie Louise Daughter Single F 1 1880 ((Organist's Daughter)) Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SOWDEN, Mary Servant Single F 22 1859 General Servant (Domestic) Bodmin Cornwall VIEW *****SPEAR, Gregory Relative Married M 27 1854 Butcher Lanivet Cornwall VIEW *****SPEAR, Annie Relative Married F 24 1857 ((Butcher's Wife)) Bodmin Cornwall VIEW HURDEN, Elizabeth Visitor Single F 34 1847 Dressmaker Bodmin Cornwall VIEW
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:47 |
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1891 -
SPEAR, Gregory Head Married M 37 1854 Cattle Dealer Lanivet Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Annie Wife Married F 34 1857 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, James Son M 9 1882 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Gregory Son M 4 1887 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Joseph H Son M 1 (13M) 1890 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW CRADDOCK, Mary Servant F 29 1862 General Servant Domestic St Issey Cornwall VIEW
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:48 |
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1901
SPEAR, Gregory Head Married M 47 1854 Cattle Dealer Lanivet Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Annie Wife Married F 44 1857 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, James Son Single M 18 1883 Cattle Dealer Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Joseph Hicks Son Single M 10 1891 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Annie F Daughter Single F 6 1895 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW STEVENS, Cissie Servant Single F 22 1879 General Servant Domestic Lanivet Cornwall VIEW
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Dorothy
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25 Jul 2010 10:48 |
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Thank you all again, especially Astra and Choccy. I am going to get a clean piece of paper and start again, Thanks for all you do for novices like me.
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:49 |
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SPEAR, Gregory Head Married M 57 1854 Butcher And Cattle Dealer Lanivet Parish Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Annie Wife Married 32 years F 54 1857 Assisting In The Business Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, James Son Single M 28 1883 Assisting In The Business Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Joseph Hicks Son Single M 21 1890 Assisting In The Business Bodmin Cornwall VIEW SPEAR, Annie Florance Daughter Single F 16 1895 Mothers Help Bodmin Cornwall VIEW
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Choccy
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25 Jul 2010 10:53 |
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marriage of Etty Jago -
Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best Thomas St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 879 Jago Etty St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 879
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BEST, Thomas Head Married M 41 1850 Builder Cardinham Cornwall VIEW BEST, Ettie Wife Married F 30 1861 Bodmin Cornwall VIEW BEST, John Son M 3 1888 Pimlico London VIEW BEST, Thomas Son M 1 1890 Pimlico London VIEW
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25 Jul 2010 10:55 |
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1901 census -
Person: BEST, Ettie Institution: Miss Metcalfe, Highfield Golders Green Hendon Ôlittle Highfieldö
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BEST, Ettie Matron Married F 40 1861 Dom Bodmin Cornwall VIEW
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25 Jul 2010 10:57 |
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The rest of Etty's family in 1901 -
BEST, Thomas Head Married M 51 1850 Carpenter & Joiner Cardynham Cornwall VIEW BEST, John Jago Son Single M 13 1888 School Pimlico London VIEW BEST, Thomas Son Single M 11 1890 School Pimlico London VIEW
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