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I have a Robert French bc 1838 Devon England fathers name John French a Minister bc 1815 England and would like the details of the 1841 1851 and 1861 census. Robert French married Hannah Taylor in 1863 Abergavenny Wales and migrated to South Australia. Cheers
Allan

1841 but need to check the image

Name: Robert French
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Bovey Tracey
Hundred: Teignbridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Chudleigh
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John French 30
Susanna French 25
Emma French 6
Robert French 4
John French 2
Mary French 6 Mo

No this John is a butcher

John French may have became a Minister later in his life or maybe it is family folk law .
Allan

So does that mean you do not have the marriage cert?

well now


a Public Family Tree on ancestry.co.uk has

Robert French born 1838, Devon England
Death 26 JUL 1910, South Australia Buried at Sea
Married Hannah Parsey Abergavenny Monmonthshire in 1863


BUT it has his father as FRANK French, b. ca 1815. No mother's name



so where did you get your information???



sylvia

Oh yes


several family trees have Robert French b. ca 1838, Bovey Tracey, father John French, mother Susanna(h) ............. these look the family that GB found


Most of them also say he married Jane Maber in 1861 in Dorset




You've got to get that marriage certificate if you do not have it



That will tell you his father's name, occupation and address.





sylvia

Yes I dont have the marriage certificate just family say so with his occupation but do know that the other details are correct. Robert French was a successful Shoemaker in South Australia so possibly he was in the shoe trade in England and Wales. Hannah Taylor (Parsey) was born 1848 Abergavenny her mothers maiden name was Taylor have not been able to locate a birth certificate for Hannah if she was registered Hannah Taylor or Hannah Parsey her mother Elizabeth Taylor married Thomas Parsey in 1850 Aberytruth Monmonthshire Wales....cheers Allan

Marriage registration


Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)

French Robert Abergavenny 11a 93
Taylor Hannah Abergavenny 11a 93





sylvia

Yes you are correct the marriage cert would give the correct first name and occupation..the name the family called Robert Frenchs father may be different and may have been registered as a different name.
Cheers
Allan

My apologies Robert French fathers name is Frank French ..just cant trust the memory
Allan

so, according to you, this is likely to be Hannah in 1851 .. si that correct???



1851 Census

Name: Thomas Parsey
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanfrynach, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Tredegar

Thomas Parsey 26 Engineer
Elizabeth Parsey 25 b.ca 1826, Rhymney, Monmouthshire
Hannah Parsey 3 b.ca 1848, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire

Address:- Beaufort Houses



sylvia

Yes Sylvia that is my 1851 census for Thomas Parsey Elizabeth Parsey nee Taylor and Hannah b 1848.
Regards
Allan

You have to buy that marriage certificate!


I've given you the information

Now go to www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Click on Order a Certificate Online


You have to registrer, but it's free to do that


Fill out the information as asked.

When asked if you have the GRO Registration Number, click YES ..... that's the sequence of 2 numbers after the names (ie, 11a 93)


The certificate will cost £9.25


do NOT order certificates from anywhere else ,as they will cost you much more money!


Come back when you have that documented information



It does look from that tree on ancestry as though at least one child was born in Wales before they left.



sylvia

Thank You Sylfia. Yes certificates say all..will do so. Cheers for today
Allan

You still need to get the marriage cert, but this is a Frank French. I know you wouldn't guess it but looking at the image his surname has been scrawled over.

1841 England Census
Name: Frank Jessick
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil parish: Axmouth
Hundred: Axminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Dowlands

Occupation: M.S. [male servant for a gentleman of independent means]

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
N P Buckler 60
Mary Norris 25
Elizabeth Gould 14
Gartha Larcombe 14
James Banks 29
Frank Jessick 24
James Nears 20
Thomas James 13

???
Marriages Jun 1848
French Francis Axminster 10 13 <<<<<
HOSKINGS William Axminster 10 13
Norris Amey Axminster 10 13 <<<<<
Norris Charlotte Axminster 10 13
Phippin Elizabeth Axbridge 10 13
PHIPPIN Elizabeth Axminster 10 13
Veelentine Richard Axminster 10 13


1851 England Census
Name: Francis French
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Amy
Gender: Male
Where born: Musbury, Devon, England
Civil parish: Kilmington
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Balls

Occupation: Ag lab

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Lyme
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis French 33
Amy French 34
Ann French 10

I am looking for a Robert French b 1838 Devon England Fathers name Frank French bc1815 England?
Regards
Allan

Allan, I understand that but there are at least two Robert French c1838 born Devon.

However you'll want Robert's parents as well. If you've already done research you'll know that there are a lot of people named French in Devon in the 1841 & 1851 censuses, let alone all the mistranscribed. Frank French is a less common name so worth checking if there is one, and whether there is a child who has been mistranscribed. I mean who knows what this child was called?
Births Sep 1838
FRENCH Male Axminster 10 17

I just thought I'd help out.

Soon you'll have the marriage cert and will know for sure what is going on.

Ozi.