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Thanks for letting us know Nicola. It always helps when you can compare notes with someone else.

Good luck....Liz

We have got in touch, thankyou alviegal. You are right, anything but a boring lot!!!! ;-)

Nicola, click on Findingmypast's name and send a message that way. They may not be checking this thread but will receive your email in their inbox.
I am sure they will want to hear from you.
Good luck...Liz

George and Elizabeth were my great great grandparents. Their daughter, Winifred, died aged 14 and i visited the large gravestone with all of their names inscribed, and have a photograph if you are interested.

As a Robbins from Warcs. myself, I have lots of Robbins' from Stretton-on-Dunsmore in my tree including Francis

Well, it certainly is a small world isn't it!
This family is certainly keeping you on your toes with all their goings on. It's a shame we can't get more 'in-depth' information about their everyday lives, just what's on bits of paper.
Still, they're certainly not a boring lot!
Thanks for letting me know.

Liz

*** alviegal *** ..........just to let you know what a small world it is - read-on !

Francis Robbins ( born 1870 ) who emigrated to Canada with - & then married - Jane Ward ( born 1872 ) , well it turns out that Jane was the older sister of Priscilla " Kate " Ward ( born 1884 ) - who married Francis' younger brother Christopher Robbins ( born 1876 ) - the couple from my earlier post !

I found Jane with the same parents as Kate's ( on 1881 census )...a small world indeed !

Excellent *** alviegal *** i couldn't find that anywhere on FreeBMD !

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Cicely A Owen
Name: Cicely A Owen
Spouse Surname: Smith
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Foleshill
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1505
Find Spouse: Frank F Smith


F could be a mistake? Must go now, past my bedtime. Will look in tomorrow.

Liz

Thanks Catherine,

in 1901 i have Francis as plain Francis Robbins living with his Robbins Grandparents in Wolston.

1901 ?
Name: Francis R Smith
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Edgbaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose and St Mary
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 298
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Smith 27 born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Louisa Smith 68 - Mother born: Dursley, Gloucestershire
Francis R Smith 5

Thanks ***alviegal***,
Nice to see the army record and 1911 census for Canada shows it's our man.
I really must change my Membership.

It makes perfect sense but looks like you need the BC to find out who his father is.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Francis Robbins Smith
Name: Francis Robbins Smith
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 575

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
about Francis Richard Robbins
Name: Francis Richard Robbins
Gender: Male
Age: 81
Death Date: 24 Mar 1952
Place of Death: Victoria
Registration #: 1952-09-003721
bca #: B13211
gsu #: 2032860


This looks to be his marriage. From http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes

Vital Event Marriage Registration

Groom Name: Francis Robbins
Bride Name: Jane Ward

Event Date: 1906 4 30 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event Place: Victoria

Reg. Number: 1906-09-014595
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B11369
GSU Microfilm Number: 1983526

Thankyou Catherine for finding Francis in Canada ! ( & thanks *** alviegal *** for the Canadian census ).

This is a bit confusing , but i think that my cousins' grandfather Francis Robbins Smith ( born Wolston 1896 ) was possibly Gertrude's son born before her marriage ? ( although it seems that she did not marry Thomas Smith either ).
Possibly his Robbins grandparents ( Gertrude's parents ) raised him...i hope all of this makes sense !

Tootyfruity,
1911 and marriage for Francis are not the correct ones.
As you can see in my posting as 21:51 the father of that Francis was also called Francis.

6 children and they were all still alive. Still can't find a marriage though.

Of course, I remember posting this for Priscilla Kate.


1911 census transcription details for: Wolston Coventry
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN18637 RG78PN1114 RD391 SD3 ED17 SN4

Reg. District: Rugby Sub District: Dunchurch
Parish: Wolston Enum. District: 17
Address: Wolston Coventry
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
ROBBINS, George Head Married M 63 1848 Farm Labourer Warwicks Stretton Dunsmore
ROBBINS, Elisabeth Wife Married
45 years F 62 1849 Alveston
ROBBINS, Christopher G Son Single M 34 1877 Platelayer Railway Princethorpe Warwicks
SMITH, Francis R Grandson M 14 1897 Factory Celluloid Wolston Warwicks
WARD, Rate P Boarder Single F 26 1885 Factory Celluloid Wolston Warwicks

Thankyou all for your help , it is very much appreciated.

*** alviegal *** i think that you may have found Gertrude.

This is a very complicated family & i am trying to unravel their " mysteries " for my cousin , whose father died afew weeks ago aged 85.

His grandfather is believed to have had a younger brother called Christopher , but i have found no evidence to support this until your 1911 post for Gertrude ( grandfather Francis is with his grandparents in 1901 & 1911 census' for some reason - George + Elizabeth Robbins ).

Can i please ask if it says how many children Gertrude + Thomas have & if any have died...thanks again !

Well done Catherine! He was a groom, married and had served in the Royal Garrison Artillery for 12 years. This was dated 12 Nov 1915.


Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Francis Richard Robbins
Name: Francis Richard Robbins
Residence: Gro, Victoria, British Columbia
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1872
Birth Location: Coventry, Wanrickshire, England
Relative: Elizabeth Robbins
Relationship: Mother
Regiment Number: 180717




1911 Census of Canada
about Francis Richard Robbins
Name: Francis Richard Robbins
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Birth Date: Aug 1872
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1900
Tribal: English
Province: British Columbia
District: Victoria
District Number: 13
Sub-District Number: 12
Place of Habitation: George Foul Bay St
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Richard Robbins 38
Jane Robbins 38 Birth Date: Aug 1872
Birthplace: England Emigrated 1906
Francois Samuel Robbins 4 Birth Date: Apr 1907
Birthplace: British Columbia
Isabel Winiefred Robbins 2
Birth Date: Jul 1909
Birthplace: British Columbia

Possible marriage for Francis

Marriages Mar 1895   (>99%)
Allen  Ada Essie    Greenwich  1d 994   
Robbins  Francis    Greenwich  1d 994   
Temple  Alfred    Greenwich  1d 994   
Walker  Annie Maria    Greenwich  1d 994