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Am having no luck in tracing my great grandparents Edward Hopkins born around 1868 in Portsmouth, Hants and his wife Mary Jane (ne Budd)
My grandfather's name their son was named Frederick H born around 1891He had at least one brother whose name I don't know.

Would be most grateful for any help.

Name: Frederick H Hopkins
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: North End and Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Mary J Hopkins 42
Albert W Hopkins 15
Daisy R Hopkins 13
Dora R Hopkins 11
Frederick H Hopkins 9
Mary Ann Hoster 65


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1891

Name: Daisy Hopkins
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
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Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hopkins 39
Mary J Hopkins 32
Harriett Hopkins 13
Edward Hopkins 8
Albert Hopkins 5
Daisy Hopkins 3
Dora Hopkins 1


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1911 census - household transcription
Person: HOPKINS, Mary Jane
Address: 41 Wiltshire St Southsea Portsmouth


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HOPKINS, Edward Head Married M 59 1852 Fish Fryer Shop Keeper Portsmouth Hants VIEW
HOPKINS, Mary Jane Wife Married
34 years F 52 1859 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
HOPKINS, Albert William Son Single M 25 1886 Engine Fitter Govt Dockyard Portsmouth Hants VIEW
MEREWOOD, Daisy Rosina Daughter Married F 23 1888 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
WEST, Bora Rosina Daughter Married F 21 1890 Portsmouth Hants VIEW

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7 children 1 died

hi
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
BUDD Mary Jane Portsea 2b 686

HOPKINS Edward Portsea 2b 686

no wonder I could'nt find the marraige I was looking around 1877

Where did you get 1868 for Edwards dob?
jax

How had you tried to trace them, Maureen, and what are you looking for?

The marriage is quickly found at FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

as is Frederick's birth (no need for inaccurate "around" birthdates).

The parents' marriage certificate will give their fathers' names and their ages at marriage (which the censuses posted by jax provide).

You can look for their births at FreeBMD with that info as well, and also search for them with their parents in earlier censuses. If you don't have access to censuses, others can help with that. You should take a shot at finding their births at FreeBMD, though. You will eventually need their birth certificates to be certain of their parents' identities.

Don't you love fiction stated as fact, jax??

Guessing that someone was "x" age because he had a child in "y" year ... and then stating that birthdate as if there were some basis for it ... just doesn't work.

Also when they say they have been married 34 years....take no notice they mean 25

jax

Y'know, I'm just getting plain tired of people not bothering to look for / read / acknowledge replies.

Four minutes was too long??

They are waiting for an email JC wish genes would tell them this... Oh 4 minutes I'm getting slow lol

jax

Many thanks for your suggestions Janey.

I feel cross that people don't thank you for your help (unless I misunderstood you!) I'm sure I wouldn't have got anywhere without the help of all the good people on this website!!

Maureen

p.s. You wouldn't happen to know how I can print all the info out would you?

I tried and only got the adverts nothing else. Tried installing READABILITY but that will on print half a page for some reason.

Thanks (in hopes)

Thanks so much to all of you. I'm fairly sure the Portsea Island district's the right one.

Have to say I'm so impressed with the level of help and expertise you all have. I'm such a beginner at this!

If I've forgotten to thank anyone then. Apologies!

Regards
Maureen

You're welcome Maureen

sorry have no idea how to print it...it will not be deleted unless you do it yourself!!

I am useless with computers but you could copy and paste it and put it in a file?

jax

So who is Harriet Hopkins b 1878? No Harriet Hopkins or Harriet Budd birth, no sign of Mary Jane or Harriet Hopkins/Budd together in 1881.

Plausible births for Edward George, Albert William, Daisy Rosina and Dora Rosina (odd?) - all Hopkins.

This looks like Edward in1881 - same occupation as in 1891:

1881 England Census
about Edward Hopkins
Name: Edward Hopkins
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 57 Clarence St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cook R N

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Hopkins 54
Elizabeth Hopkins 51
Edward Hopkins 29

1871 England Census
about Edward Hopkins
Name: Edward Hopkins
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 325
Household Members: Name Age
George Hopkins 45
Elizabeth Hopkins 41
George Hopkins 20
Edward Hopkins 19
Eleanor Hopkins 9 (born Freemantle, Australia!)

On the 1881 there is also Frederick E Ward, 22, wife Eleanor 18 (born Australia) and 2-month old twins Emma A and Eleanor E Ward, living with the Hopkins family.

There a tree on Ancestry with the family - Mary Jane Budd marries George Reeves in 1876, and, wait for it, DIVORCES HIM in 1885. I've not had a divorce that far back before.

Must delve some more.

He has Harriet Frances Reeves born 5/8/1877, but the only Harriet Frances I can see is called Godden, June qtr.

Ahhhh so thats why it says they were married 34 years she was including her first marriage

jax

1881 England Census
about Mary J. Reeves
Name: Mary J. Reeves
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 12 Clarence Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary J. Reeves 23 Married
Harriett J. Reeves 3 (Image says Harriett F Reeves)

George is on board ship, The Mosquito, bound for China.