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John Davies b 1891

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Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 09:42

Could someone please check 1901 and 1911 census for me.


John Davies is 6 months old on the 1891 census

On the 1901 census John is 2 years too young and born in a different place. Is it listed on the census if a child has died. i know sometimes a name is reused from a deceased child, is that possible here.

Many thanks to anyone who could check this for me.

This an extra inquiry about this family


alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Jun 2010 09:49

This one?


1891 census transcription details for: 26, May Street, Newton, Manchester
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3252 Folio: 118 Page: 18

Reg. District: Prestwich Sub District: Newton
Parish: Newton Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints Newton City/Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: 26, May Street, Newton, Manchester
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
DAVIES, John Head Married M 38 1853 Collier Coal
Lymm
Cheshire
DAVIES, Jane Wife Married F 34 1857
Ashton Under Lyne
Lancashire
DAVIES, Rose A Daughter Single F 9 1882
Leeds
Yorkshire
DAVIES, Albert E Son Single M 6 1885
Newton Heath
Lancashire
DAVIES, Clara Daughter Single F 2 1889
Bradford
Lancashire
DAVIES, John Son Single M 0 (6M) 1891
Newton Heath
Lancashire
GREENWOOD, John Brother In Law Single M 26 1865 Collier Coal
Ashton Under Lyne
Lancashire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 2 Jun 2010 09:50

Name: Albert E Davies
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Newton All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Davies 38
Jane Davies 34
Rose A Davies 9
Albert E Davies 6
Clara Davies 2
John Davies 0
John Greenwood 26

I'll look at the image in a moment.

Barbara if you could put the county when asking for a look up it would help as on Ancestry you really need to put the county in and we don't always know wher some of these places are

Jennifer

Flick

Flick Report 2 Jun 2010 09:51

Name: Albert E Davies
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Newton All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Davies 38 born Lymm, Cheshire Occ: Collier
Jane Davies 34 born Ashton under Lyne
Rose A Davies 9
Albert E Davies 6
Clara Davies 2
John Davies 0
John Greenwood 26 Brother in Law


Address: 26, May Street

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 2 Jun 2010 09:54

there is a George B Davies and family on same page also born Cheshire and a coal miner

Name: George B Davies
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice A
Gender: Male
Where born: Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Newton All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George B Davies 30
Alice A Davies 25
Emily Davies 6
Jessie Davies 5
Alice Davies 1

Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 10:00

Thankyou to all of you , I didn't expect such a quick reply

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 2 Jun 2010 10:02

Barbara it's because we are bored with our own tree and the weather outside is not very good for either gardening or walking!

Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 10:41

Rutlandbelle, is it possible that George B davies could be John's brother. I have no information about John as to his parents and siblings. I know a lot of miners lived close to their families.
Barbara

Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 11:26

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Flick

Flick Report 2 Jun 2010 12:47

John in 1871

Name: John Davies
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Lymm
Ecclesiastical parish: Lymm
Town: Lymm
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
George Davies 41
Ellen Davies 40
Anne Davies 20
John Davies 19
Elizabeth Davies 17
Ellen Davies 15
Jane Davies 14
Agnes Davies 11
George Davies 1 Son


All born Lymm

I think this rules out the possibility of George born Runcorn being part of this family

Flick

Flick Report 2 Jun 2010 12:51

1861

Name: John Davies
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Lymm
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
George Davies 32
Ellen Davies 31
Ann Davies 10
John Davies 9
Elizabeth Davies 7
Ellen Davies 6
Jane Davies 4
Isabella Cotsworth 14 Boarder

Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 13:09

Thanks Flick and Rutlandbelle I thought it too convenient to find a ready made brother. All the information you have given me is very useful. Any ideas for the next generation back.
Barbara

Flick

Flick Report 2 Jun 2010 13:22

1851

Name: George Davies
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymm, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Lymm
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England



Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
George Davies 23
Ellen Davies 21
Ann Davies 5 Mo

____________________________________________________

1841

Name: George Davies
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Lymm
Hundred: Bucklow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Lymm
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Daniel 50
George Davies 12
Elizabeth Davies 10


You'll need George and Ellen's marriage cert to go further back.

Look for the record on freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Barbara

Barbara Report 2 Jun 2010 13:32

Thankyou Flick I will have a look on there. The help is much appreciated.
Barbara

Barbara

Barbara Report 7 Aug 2011 13:26

nnn

Barbara

Barbara Report 7 Aug 2011 13:29

Could someone please check 1891 census for me.
Albert Edward Davies 1884 b Newton Heath

His brother John is 6 months old

On the 1901 census John is 2 years too young and born in a different place. Is it listed on the census if a child has died. i know sometimes a name is reused from a deceased child, is that possible here.

Many thanks to anyone who could check this for me.

This an extra inquiry about this family

Barbara

Barbara Report 8 Aug 2011 05:20

nnn

Barbara

Barbara Report 24 Aug 2011 06:44

nnn

Flick

Flick Report 24 Aug 2011 09:19

I ( and two other GR members) gave you the 1891 info in June LAST YEAR........why ask for it again?

ONLY the 1911 census records number of children born in a marriage

What are you actually trying to find out/prove?

Barbara

Barbara Report 30 Aug 2011 06:10

Flick,
I am not asking for the 1891 again. I am interested in the 1901 and 1911.

I am interested in John Davies who was 6 months old on the 1891.

I am trying to find out if he died and another son born later may have been named John. I have been contacted by a relative who has john born later on her tree and is sure he is the brother of my grandfather.

Basically all I wanted to know was does the census show how many children living and how many have died.

I hope I have made myself understood properly. I didn't think I was allowed a new thread for the same family.

Thank you for your interest Barbara