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I am looking at Moss family

George Fred Moss, his Wife Maria Moss. Children are Olive Moss born 1901 and Ernest, cant find birth for him. In 1901 Olive is 4 months old. I have a photo of Ernest and Olive in 1918 in Decemeber, Olive is abt 16 and Ernest looks abt 7-8 years old.
On the 1911 census, Olive is 5, there was 2 children, 1 is living, must be Olive, 1 has died, is it Ernest, i cant find a birth and im not having any luck looking for a death.
Can anyone help please?

Joanne

Where were they born and what was the mother's maiden name?

Joanne, just to clarify, you have a photo taken 1918 with both Olive and Ernest on? therefore he can't be the child already deceased by 1911....

Ernest can't have died by the 1911 if you have a photo of him in 1918 the has to be another explanation

Wendy

Corinne,

Olive was born in Walthamstow and Maria's mmn was Earle.

Rambling Rose,

Yes the photo has them names and Xmas 1918 on it.
No he cant be the child who has died. I cant find a birth for him.

So is this the correct family?? wife is Maria..


MOSS, George Fred Head Married M 35 1876 Registered Plumber Journeyman Middlesex Brentford VIEW
MOSS, Maria Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Wilts Salisbury VIEW
MOSS, Olive Adelaide Daughter F 5 1906 Essex Walthamstow VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9701 Reference:
RG14PN9701 RG78PN514A RD188 SD10 ED27 SN188

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Walthamstow Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Walthamstow

Address:
36 Aubrey Road Walthamstow County:
Essex

Nicky

Tenerifesun,

There must be, im confused.

Nicky, that dosent look like them in your first reply.

But it is them in your 2nd reply.

at a guess

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)


Moss George E Earle W.Ham 4a 821

second name Ernest?

These are the only 3 Olive Moss births that come up in Essex between 1901 and 1906..........Olive Adelaide who I puit up with her family in 1911 is definetly 5 years old...is that your Olive? or was she born 1901 in which case she may be the other one Olive Grace Moss?


Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
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MOSS Olive Grace Edmonton 3a 373
Moss Oliver Grace Edmonton 3a 373

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Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Moss Olive Adelaide W. Ham 4a 493


Nicky

Marriages Jun 1901
Earle Maria Salisbury 5a 386

Moss George Fred Salisbury 5a 386

Gwyn

Rambling Rose,

That looks good as MMN is Earle and area is West ham which is the county where they were living in 1911

I think your getting your families mixed up....this Olive is 4 months old in 1901, but is the family from Leicester with wife Lillian May not Maria..

MOSS, George Fred Head Married M 26 1875 Hair Dresser
London VIEW
MOSS, Lillian M Wife Married F 21 1880
Leicester VIEW
MOSS, Olive Daughter Single F 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Leicester VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2995 Folio:
122 Page:
6

Registration District:
Leicester Sub District:
North East Leicester Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peter

Civil Parish:
Leicester Municipal Borough:
Address:
70, Sparkenhoe Street, Leicester County:
Leicestershire

Nicky

Nicky, yes Olive born 1906 must be my one, but 1901 says she was 4 months old, unless im looking at wrong family.

George yes that is the family

Jo Lo

As I said above the 4 month old Olive Moss is the daughter of Lillian May Moss from Leicestershire...I think you are getting your families mixed up.


Nicky

Nicky yes i mixed them up.

Olive Adelaide must be my one born 1906? Also George E Moss with MMN Earle that Rambling Rose found may well be the Son of Maria and Brother of Olive.

Does anyone else think the birth for George E Moss, MMN Earle could be their Son?

Yes, he is likely to be a son ....and a brother to Olive.- possibly the Ernest in the later photo.
However he won't be the child mentioned in the 1911 census, as he was not yet born, so there is still that child's birth and death to find prior to the 1911 census.


Gwyn