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so that 1901 is for the other Richard & Ellen not Jane's parents?

Hope your son continues to improve Mary

Thank you Margaret.
Thought it might have been the same.
Mary

So glad to hear that your son is OK, Mary.
The address for Richard & Ellen Fairhurst in 1901 was 62 Bolton St., Wigan.

Annie G, Margaret Manson and Lancashire Ann
Thank you all for the time ,help and information you gave me last night.Couldn't get back to you till now as I had to have my little grandson overnight. They let my son out of hospital early this morning with 2 lots of antibiotics and a bagful of painkillers.Hopefully he should recover now at home.Worrying time though.
Annie, The 1901 census you found for Richard and Ellen Fairhurst could you please tell me the address as I have just found out that they were living at 12 Upper Morris Street Wigan at the time of Ellen's death and just wondered if it was the same.
Think its going to take me a long time to sort out these Fairhursts and Finchs.
Thanks again everyone for all your help it was very much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Mary

possible marriage of rachel's parents

Marriage: 5 Mar 1885 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Finch - (X), 20 Stoker Bachelor of Duke St.
Alice Wolstenholme - (X), 25 Spinster of Folly
Groom's Father: James Finch, (decd.), Publican
Bride's Father: Samuel Wolstenholme, Collier
Witness: Samuel Wolstenholme; Fiona Finch
Married by Banns by: C.J.Buckmaster Curate
Register: Marriages 1880 - 1888, Page 159, Entry 318
Source: LDS Film 1885699

Rachel's baptism

Baptisms: 29 Jul 1894 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Rachel Finch - Child of William Finch & Alice
Born: 25 Jun 1894
Abode: School St.
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: H.W.M. Gunning Curate
Register: Baptisms 1893 - 1896, Page 106, Entry 848
Source: LDS Film 1885674

what was Richard's occupation in 1871

there are 2 separate Richard & Ellen families shown on the 1881 census
one at Rylance Row and the other at Bolton St

using lan-opc

Baptisms: 4 Jan 1869 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Fairhurst - Child of Richard Fairhurst & Ellen
Abode: 40 Rylance Row
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: A H Hodd, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1868 - 1869 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 31, Entry 248
Source: LDS Film 1469056

Baptisms: 18 Mar 1877 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Arthur Fairhurst - Child of Richard Fairhurst & Ellen
Born: 27 Feb 1877
Abode: Platt Lane
Occupation: Machine Clerk
Baptised by: Jno. Wood
Register: Baptisms 1876 - 1878 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 82, Entry 651
Source: LDS Film 1469056

Baptisms: 12 Dec 1880 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ellen Fairhurst - Child of Richard Fairhurst & Ellen
Born: 24 Nov 1880
Abode: 62 Bolton St
Occupation: Weigh Clerk
Baptised by: John Fairhurst
Register: Baptisms 1878 - 1883 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 46, Entry 365
Source: LDS Film 1469056

plus the others at Bolton St

Sorry must go now. Daughter in law just phoned to say my son is not well and needs to go to hospital and will I look after 3yr old grandson.
Thank you
Mary

Thank you so much Annie and Margaret for all your time and help.I will go to search the parish records for baptisms at st Catherines and see if I can match up some childrens names with the census you gave me if they give any addresses in the records. Think this is going to keep me busy for quite a while.Please can I ask another favour. I need to match a Rachel Finch with these Finchs and Fairhursts . Please can you look when you have time for a Rachel Finch born 1894 Wigan in the census to find her parents.
Your help is much appreciated
Mary

Margaret and Annie,
Loads of Fairhursts and Finchs around that area with large Families.I found a baptism of Jane Fairhurst dau of Richard and Ellen at St Catherines Jan 4th 1869 but just looked again at my cemetery record and Jane died Jan 1936 aged 65 years so that would make her birth 1871. So that couldn't be her unless they didn't give the right age when she died.
Mary

There's another family in Wigan having children in the 1860's, Robert & Ellen.
Also a Matthew & Ellen having children in the 1880's.
Not to mention the unmarried Ellens having children.
They don't make it easy, do they?

Other children of Henry & Ellen in Wigan:

FAIRHURST, Ellen Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Dec 1864 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Henry FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

FAIRHURST, Grace Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 22 Jan 1866 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Henry FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

This must be the other Jane with mother Ellen:

FAIRHURST, Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 9 Mar 1868 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Henry FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

Ellen was 53 when she died 1905 and Richard 59 in 1910
according to cemetery records.
Know these are the right dates being buried with the Finch family.
When I first looked on 1881 there was another family of Fairhurst in same area with Mother Ellen widow and Daughter Jane who was 13.Both families were in same area of Wigan.They also had other children. Joseph,Mary,Thomas and Jacob as well as Jane.
Mary

A tree on Ancestry has 5 children of Richard & Ellen:
Richard 1868
Elizabeth 1871
John 1875
Arthur, 1877
Ellen 1881

The only one they show a marriage for is Richard married to Alice with 4 daughters.

I think this tree is wrong. I don't see how they could have had a son Richard born 1868. Their daughter Jane was christened Jan 1869 and since their other children were christened when they were about a month old, I think she must have been born abt. Dec, 1868. That was the year they were married.

Annie,
I know for certain that Ellen died Oct 1905 and Richard died 1910.I was searching in wigan cemetery records for the grave number of Jane and her husband Richard Finch and was surprised to find Richard and Ellen Fairhurst buried with them. It was on these records that told me Richard Fairhurst had died march 1910 in Whittingham Asylum.
Mary

Thank you so much for those baptisms Margaret
Regards Mary

BVRI has these children of Richard & Ellen in Wigan:

FAIRHURST, Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 4 Jan 1869 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

FAIRHURST, Arthur Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1877
Christening Date: 18 Mar 1877 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

FAIRHURST, Ellen Christening
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1880
Christening Date: 12 Dec 1880 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

FAIRHURST, Alfred Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 31 May 1883
Christening Date: 17 Jun 1883 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

FAIRHURST, Alfred Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1885
Christening Date: 8 Feb 1885 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

FAIRHURST, Florence Christening
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Jan 1887
Christening Date: 6 Feb 1887 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard FAIRHURST
Mother: Ellen
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1876 - 1893

Thank you Annie for your help.
Richard died in Whittingham Asylum in 1910 and the family have been trying to find out how long he was in there.
Kind Regards Mary

Thank you Annie,
Please can you take a look for the family in 71 to see if there were more children before Jane and where they still living at 28 Rylance Row wigan.
Thank you Mary