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Susan,

I have just found the info I was refering to.
Dorothy Agnes (Ellison) visited England in 1932 with her two sons Gordon and Donald, and her sister Bessie Florence.
Their other sister Ethel Maud went in 1934.
Their returns are documented in the Canadian records but I do not have access.
As I said, I have just found this info in the last week so there is a lot more to do.
May be we have some cousins over there!
I will be wanting to find more details on the lives of the three sisters. My mother is very interested to learn about her aunts.
Lets see what comes up next.

Lance.

New Zealand.

Susan,

I have just come across this thread, the subjects are my great aunts and they have been pretty much lost to me as well.
I have recently discovered that they all returned to England to visit their mother.
This is an active line of enquiry so I will keep you updated.

Lance.

Thankyou mgnv, i really appreciate all the time and effort you guys have spent on this thread. My brain is like a sponge, soaking up all the information. I wish i had paid this much attention was i was at school!! Tee hee! Susan x

I prefer this as an alternative to MM's databases URL:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

You can drill down there to:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-130-e.html

Unfortunately, LAC index their passenger lists by voyage, not passenger, but, with Jonesey's details, you can locate the passenger lists for the relevant voyages thru 1922.

Hi Margaret, i do know that and the only reason why is bacause i just read about it on the site that Jonesey gave me. Sniff, sob! Susan x

Do you know that this year is the official "Year of the British Home Children" here in Canada?

Still here Margaret. I am reading up on "British home children" most according to what i have read so far, were lost in the system and were never reunited with their familes again. And so i find the information you have provided to be most heart warming Margaret. Which also goes on to prove that whatever marriage i thought i found for Ethel in Canada , never existed!! I just know im gonna be on the Gin and Tonic tonight! Cheers Margaret .... Susan

Incoming passenger lists has Ethel Maud Dudley arriving Southampton 9 June 1934 from Quebec. Proposed address in England is 22 Somerset Rd., Portswood, Hants. She's a domestic, age 31.

This has got to be the same Ethel as the one above who had been in Canada since March 1912,

Oh! Hope you come back, Susan.

This is an interesting one:
Ethel Dudley, age 31, single, born Southampton, England sailed from Southampton to Quebec, 18 July 1934. States she had been in Canada from March 1912 to 2 June 1934. Her home address was Toronto. Her relationship is listed as sister but the person above her is Grace Dummer, 27, single, born Portsmouth who had been in Canada from May 1926 to 27 May 1934. Her home address was Ottawa.
Ethel's employer was Miss Laurain Morrison, 54 Sheldrake Ave., Toronto.

I know what you mean Susan. It seems strange that Alice presumably gave up her "Middle" children Bessie and Ethel but kept the eldest and the 2 youngest. Perhaps she thought that Bessie and Ethel would stand a chance of a better life but held on to Dorothy to help her look after the others.

I presume you probably have this but just in case:

Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
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Dudley Alice S. Stoneham 2c 216
Moore Frederick S. Stoneham 2c 216

Thankyou very much for your input Margaret .............Jonesey, i have always found you to be extremely Knowledgable. Thankyou for educating me on "british home children" i have swallowed my tongue now! My goodness how awful and for the first time, William Shakespeare bought a tear to my eye! And there was me, all excited to find Ancesters who had emigrated! Thankyou again Jonesey Susan x

Sorry, I'm having no luck either.

Susan,

I cannot spot Ethel Maud's marriage but Ancestry only has quite limited Canadian marriage records. Perhaps MargaretManson who is in Canada has access to more records over there.

Surname: DUDLEYGiven Name: Bessie FlorenceAge: 11Sex: FShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1912Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 14 March 1912Arrival Port: Saint JohnArrival Date: 01 April 1912Party: Dr Barnardo's Destination: Peterborough, OntarioComments: Girls to PeterboroughSource: Library and Archives Canada/Bibliothèque et Archives CanadaReference: RG76 C 1 cMicrofilm: T-4826Type of Record: Passenger Lists/Listes de passagersGroup of Children Traveling Together

Surname: DUDLEYGiven Name: Ethel MaudAge: 8Sex: FShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1912Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 14 March 1912Arrival Port: Saint JohnArrival Date: 01 April 1912Party: Dr Barnardo's Destination: Peterborough, OntarioComments: Girls to PeterboroughSource: Library and Archives Canada/Bibliothèque et Archives CanadaReference: RG76 C 1 cMicrofilm: T-4826Type of Record: Passenger Lists/Listes de passagersGroup of Children Traveling Together

Here are Bessie and Ethel in 1911:

GOODMAN, Ebenezer Head Married
8 years M 56 1855 Farm Labourer Northampton Hartwell VIEW
GOODMAN, Mary Ann Ellen Wife Married F 55 1856 Buckingham Forths VIEW
DUDLEY, Bessie Boarder F 10 1901 School Southampton Southhampton VIEW
DUDLEY, Ethel Boarder F 7 1904 School Southampton Southampton VIEW
OLDFIELD, Fred Boarder Single M 22 1889 Evangelist Derby Darley Abbey VIEW
JOHNSON, Leonard Boarder Single M 23 1888 Teacher Elementary Northampton Cranford VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8355 Reference:
RG14PN8355 RG78PN430 RD161 SD1 ED7 SN119

Registration District:
Potterspury Sub District:
Potterspury Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Paulerspury

Address:
Plumpton End Paulerspury Towcester County:
Northamptonshire

This looks like Dorothy in 1911 with possibly 2 siblings:

MOORE, Alice Head Married F 39 1872 Southampton H Denys VIEW
DUDLEY, Dorothy Daughter F 12 1899 School Southampton Hignfield VIEW
DUDLEY, Violet Daughter F 3 1908 Southampton Freemantle VIEW
DUDLEY, William Henry Son M 7 1904 Southampton Highfield VIEW
MOORE, Frederick George Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Southampton Portswood VIEW
HARVEY, Arthur John Boarder Married M 42 1869 Bricklayers Labourer St Denys Southampton VIEW
HARVEY, Arthur James Son M 12 1899 School St Denys Southampton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5941 Reference:
RG14PN5941 RG78PN273A RD99 SD1 ED7 SN271

Registration District:
Southampton Sub District:
Southampton Eastern Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Portswood

Address:
22 Somerset Road Southampton County:
Hampshire

This site has a listing of Home Children sent to Canada:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/index-e.html


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Surname Given Name Age Sex Ship Year of Arrival
1. DUDLEY Bessie Florence 11 F Corinthian 1912
2. DUDLEY Ethel Maud 8 F Corinthian 1912

Hi Jonesey, yes the sister i was just looking for is Ethel Maud Dudley. The marriage i found for earlier (cant find it now!) was in Canada to Robert Edward Chalk. Susan (hint hint!)

I see on the 1901 english census Dorothy had a sister Bessie born 1900. On the Canadian passenger list there is this Ethel Maud Dudley aged 8 who is accompanied by a Bessie Flor? Dudley who is aged 11. It looks as if they are with a party of young people who are going to Canada to become domestic servants. Home children??

Name: Ethel Maud Dudley
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 1 Apr 1912
Vessel: Corinthian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Corinthian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: London, England and Le Havre, France
Roll: T-4826

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Dudley Ethel Maud S. Stoneham 2c 64

Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Dudley Bessie Florence S. Stoneham 2c 79

This site will explain about Home children:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~britishhomechildren/

Just checking my info Jonesey.

Stop choking (lol) I'll take a look for you.

Name: Dorothy Agnes Dudley
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 24 Mar 1920
Vessel: Scotian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Scotian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Roll: T-14839

No other Dudley's with her on that trip. Dorothy's destination was Watford, Ontario

When was Dorothy's sister Ethel born and did she have a 2nd forename?