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WILLIAM (JOHN) RICE

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Cassidy

Cassidy Report 23 Apr 2010 19:03

Hi,Llandilo..Llandilo Fawr to Barton,Nottinghamshire..is approx 200 miles.

I too,Can't get my head around this one!

I know it's all on down to receiving the relevant cert's..but,just like to try now and again with these difficult one's : ).

Just wondering if Patricia or her husband Steve,have any knowledge on the family..other than what they've read from George's note's/tree.

Submitted record's are a no!...no!..for me.

IF? William married Florence and called one of his son's George[1916-1989]..then I think it unlikely that he'd name another son,George, in 1928.

Cass

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 23 Apr 2010 21:37

I know, Cass, I know, just can't resist. ;)

The submitted info - it does look like it comes from a marriage cert, don't you think? Who on earth would have submitted it, I wonder? It specifically says it was a Mormon!

"Just wondering if Patricia or her husband Steve,have any knowledge on the family..other than what they've read from George's note's/tree."

Me too, it's what I've been after. It sounds like not.

"IF? William married Florence and called one of his son's George[1916-1989]..then I think it unlikely that he'd name another son,George, in 1928."

I forgot to mention that part!

But hey, if Lilian had her heart set on George, and if he really was leading a double life, what could he have said to disagree? ;)

If we adopt the double life theory, William's father was George ... but surely that George wouldn't have known of both families!!


edit - I've added some info to my Florence West post on p.1.

Anybody else think it kinds looks good? And could be an explanation for there being no West-Rice marriage?

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2010 04:41

Now you can all see why I was so confused when I heard from this other woman!! I thought I'd got it all sussed.

Hopefully I can soon afford to send for George's birth certificate.

OK guys - Known Facts:

1. (Steve's father) George Rice (1916) and 4 of his siblings were born to Rice-West in Llandilo and 5 were born to Rice-West in Southwell.

2. George married Dorothy Whitehead 1940 in Calverton then moved to Halloughton (nr Southwell), then Gonalston (where Steve was born), then Lowdham.

3. George's parents were William J Rice & Florence West (although I've just learnt today from a relative in the UK that she was actually Emma Florence, but known as Florence).

4. Steve visited his grandparent/s only once when he was about 3 (1950-51) in Hoveringham (between Southwell and Lowdham, Notts.

5. Our UK relative says William was known as 'Long Bob' (don't know why - he must have been tall!).

6. Florence had a sister, Emmie West, who never married. She lived as a 'ladies companion' in Caythorpe (near Lowdham).

The only other information I have is the family tree written down by George.

Patricia



Cassidy

Cassidy Report 24 Apr 2010 13:26

Hi Patricia,It could well have been that your husband visited his grandmother before her death.

And,now her name is Emma Florence ?.

I'd order the death cert that "JaneyCanuck " has posted for a Florence E Rice in 1951.

Doe's your U.K. based relative have any further information ?

Cass

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2010 22:50

Hi Cass,

Sadly, our UK relative cannot remember anything else. She's the elderly wife of one of George's brothers. If he had still been alive we might have got to know more.

I'm 63 now and I started my family tree a couple of years ago for my sons and their wives and families.

My father is 93 and I helped him to write his life story before his memory faded. He was in the Coldstream guards during WW2 and was a bodyguard to the Royal Family. He's written quite a lot about his escapades during the war.

How many times I've wished I'd asked questions of my other relations about their ancestors. That is why I'm so interested in sorting out the Rice-West families and it's so frustrating to be out of work! Never mind it'll happen soon.

Best wishes,
Patricia


Patricia

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 24 Apr 2010 22:57

For info, there are 3 Emma Florence West births in the GRO, 1867-1897, all in the London area.

How likely is it that she was Emma Florence and had a sister Emmie? Not too, I'd think. ;)

I wish we knew what "Emmie" was: Emma? Emily? Not likely Emmie. It could even be Amelia.

I've added to my Florence West theory post on page 1. I wonder what anybody thinks of it.


It really would be nice to have the Florence E Rice death certificate. It would give her middle name, and could have a family member on as informant. It might show that it is your Florence, or that it isn't, and at least we'd know one way or the other.