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Darren

Darren Report 8 Apr 2010 22:05

Trying to find more information about my ancestors circa 1800 and before.

Can anyone help please?

My family are all from around Yorkshire. We have some Irish decent I believe and also Scottish (Macfarlane Clan)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards

Darren

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 8 Apr 2010 22:07

Needs some full names and date for your ancestors.

Flick

Flick Report 8 Apr 2010 22:26

Please say whether you have used the IGI to search

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 09:31

Hi Sue

The oldest ancestor in my tree is my great great great) Grandad, James Bower. He was born 1819 in Harden, nr Bingley in West Yorkshire. He was a waller/stone mason. Last recorded age: 72

His son (my great, great Grandad) was Jonas Bower (warp dresser) married one Elizabeth Chippindale in 1864.

Their son (my great Grandad) Fred Albert Bower (railway plate layer) was born 1874 married one Sarah Ann Kirkpatrick - formally Pollard).

Their son (my Grandad) Albert Bower born 07/01/1901 married Lily Craven born 12/12/1907 0n 14/08/1930.

Any more information on these relatives would be greatly appreciated.

My Father Norman Miller born 12/04/1932 married Joan Bower (daughter of Albert) on 10/12/1949

His Father Norman Miller (my Grandad) married Annie Bentham from Thornton born circa 1905. This is where my information on the Millers ceases and I dearly would like to trace them back further.

Please contact me to request a Tree view.

Kind regards

Darren

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 09:33

Hi Flick

I don't know what IGI means?

Kind regards

Darren

Flick

Flick Report 10 Apr 2010 09:36

No wish - or need - to view your tree to be able to try to help you.

To trace the Millers, you need to start by obtaining the marriage cert for Norman and Annie.

Marriages Jun 1930 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bentham Annie Miller N.Bierley 9b 92
MILLER Norman Bentham N. Bierley


The cert will tell you how old he said he was, plus the details he gave about his father.

Then you can start looking for the family on censuses, and bmd records.

Do you know when and where Norman died?

Flick

Flick Report 10 Apr 2010 09:38

To access the IGI, go to

www.familysearch.org

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 09:42

Great, many thanks for this.

I have no details about my Grandads demise. My Father Norman died April 15th 1976 ( a week before my 11th birthday) in a car crash in Larkhall Scotland.

We have a very tragic family background. 4 of my siblings died under 12 year old.

Albert Bower also died in a car crash in Perth Australia. I found his details on line and the cemetery where he rests.

D

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 09:43

Many thanks :)

D

Flick

Flick Report 10 Apr 2010 09:49

It would appear that your father had at least three brothers - have you any knowledge of them?

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 09:55



I know all about my uncles. John, David, Alan,Terry, Colin, Eric who are all now passed. I have Aunts: Anne, Susan, Ruth who are alive.

Its my older Millers that I wish to trace but many thanks.

Flick

Flick Report 10 Apr 2010 09:57

Can't you ask one of the Aunts when her father died?

It might -perhaps - save you the expense of purchasing the marriage cert.

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 10:03

Our family only ever seem to meet and communicate at funerals!

I have searched and found Normans/Annies marriage register but please forgive me, how do I now access the cert to find out about Normans father etc?

I am still very new to the site and struggle with some portals. :(

D

Flick

Flick Report 10 Apr 2010 10:06

The info I posted is all you need to order the cert from the GRO - you have to buy it to see the details

www.gro.gov.uk

Have you only just started using the message boards?

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 10:11

Thankyou. Yes this is the first time I have used the message boards.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 10 Apr 2010 12:44

Hi Darren

Can i say firstly you are doing very well for a first time here, those helping you are very experienced and will guide you as willingly as you are to be guided.

Please do as you are doing and stay with your thread, as more data comes out the information will start coming thick and fast and we'll need you to bounce things off !!

Can i clarify, you know all about your father's siblings and the names of his parents, but it's backwards from there you are struggling with?

Do you have any name of siblings to your Gfather Norman Miller, where was Norman born?

When your father also Norman Miller married what was his father's occupation?


Tracey x

Mary

Mary Report 10 Apr 2010 15:26

Could this be Norman's dad.

Norman Miller died 1959 in Worth Valley (Keighley)
age 52 =1907.
Volume 2c Page 60

Maryb

Norman Miller born 1832 in Shipley.
Could this be him 1911
6,Prince Street Shipley
Thomas Miller 1885 Shipley
Fanny married 6years born 1884 Shipley
George 1905
Norman 1908 Windhill

Marriage for Thomas and Fanny nee Whitfield J/F/M Wharfedale
9a 209 1905.
Fanny Whitfield born J/A/S 1883 she lived in Baildon near Shipley.

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 16:46

Hi

Any of these could be him, I have now sent off for my grandads marriage cert so I will know more in a few days.

I know all about my fathers siblings and info about their children etc. It is backwards of Norman Miller and Annie Bentham that I am trying to research.

Also, backwards of James Bower (from my mums side).
James born around 1819 Bingley, Stone Mason Harden Brow, Bingley.

Thank you so much for your help whoever you are.

Kindest regards

Darren

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 10 Apr 2010 17:03

Hi Darren

Where have you got to with James Bowers? What is the last census you have on him (or indeed the first!)


Tracey x

Darren

Darren Report 10 Apr 2010 17:16

James Bower 1801 census. Born at Harden

Father of Jonas Bower (Warp Dresser) born 22/09/1839

Married Elizabeth (formally Chipindale) on 16/03/1864

They had Children: Fred 1874 (married Sarah Ann Kirkpatrick, formally Pollard) Norman, Jesse, Harold?, Sam, Susan?, Ada?, Jonas, Jones, Norman

Freds Children:

My Grandfather
Albert Bower born 07/01/1901 married Lily Craven 14/08/1930

Annie - marries Stanley Lamb

Harry married Alice

Florrie amrried Len Sage

Willie

I have more info the younger the Bowers are.

Kind regards

Darren :)