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Birth certs were not issued before July 1837....when the GRO was established.

1841 census

Person: MURRAY, Margarett Address: Red Cross Street Mercer Court, Liverpool

MURRAY, Edward M 30 1811 Scotland VIEW
GRIFFITHS, John M 14 1827 VIEW
MURRAY, Margarett F 46 1795 VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Jane F 12 1829 VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Ellen F 9 1832 VIEW
GRIFFITHS, Sarah F 6 1835 VIEW
HALL, George M 25 1816 VIEW
RIGBY, Ellen F 20 1821 Ireland VIEW
SABAUM, Orsala F 17 1824 Foreign VIEW
SABAUM, Francisca F 36 1805 Foreign VIEW
SQUIRES, Joseph M 30 1811 Ireland VIEW
SCANLON, James M 30 1811 VIEW
SCANLON, Rebecca F 35 1806 VIEW
SCANLON, Edward M 6 1835 VIEW
SCANLON, William M 5 1836 VIEW
SCANLON, James M 3 1838 VIEW
STUMPS, Peter M 25 1816 VIEW
STUMPS, Catherine F 26 1815 VIEW
STUMPS, Catherine F 6 1835 VIEW
STUMPS, Jane F 3 1838 VIEW Piece: 562 Book/Folio: 12/13 Page: 19 Registration District: Liverpool Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Red Cross Street Mercer Court, Liverpool County: Lancashire r

The dates for the children rule out this record as being relevant

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320930

Trying to find Mary Griffiths B1833/34 St Peters Liverpool.All the info i have comes under Thomas Griffiths her brother. Hope someone can help please.

From Lancashire opc

Baptisms: 23 May 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Griffiths - Child of Robert Griffiths & Margaret
Abode: Norfolk Street
Occupation: Stone Mason
Baptised by: O. Ormerod Curate
Register: Baptisms 1836, Page 42, Entry 332
Source: LDS Film 1656422

Another child was baptised in 1834 to Robert Griffiths (Stone Mason) and Margaret and she was Mary Griffiths.

Possible marriage ?
Marriage: 8 Apr 1833 St. Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Griffiths - Stone Mason of Liverpool
Margaret Edwards - Spinster of Liverpool
Married by Banns by: William Tyrer B.A. Offg. Minister
Register: Marriages 1833, Page 5, Entry 162
Source: LDS Film 1068891


The following is simply me guessing at what may have happened !

There is a death for a Robert Griffiths on 4th August 1836 aged 48 years but it doesn't state an occupation.

There is a marriage on 3rd May 1837 for a Margaret Griffiths, widow of this Parish (St Peter) Liverpool to Edward Murray, Mariner. Witnesses were Richard and Mary McKnight.
Then there is a death for a Edward Murray on 12th April 1844 but no clue to his occupation.
Good Luck

Seaham Lass,
Thanks for help but on Marriage Cert it say's Robert Griffiths is a stonecutter. This is all bit of a mess but thank you for help.

Regards Jean

Only one I could find in 1841 in Liverpool and it depends on Robert Griffiths being described on Thomas' marriage certificate as a "Sawyer"

Robert Griffiths 40, Sawyer, Y
Ann Griffiths 15, Y
Jno Griffiths 8
THOMAS Griffiths 4, Y

Trying Again Please.

I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Griffiths B 1836 in Liverpool i understud his father was Edward Griffiths a may have been in Flintshire. I did send for Thomas's birth cert but it came back as unable to find. I have since sent for Thomas's marriage cert 18th june 1859 and on that it say's Father is Robert Griffiths so i sent off again for B cert and again today it has come back unable to find. Could anyone help with this please.

Thanks Jean

AlanonThe Wirral, thanks for reply will try that i have looked on the 1911 census on Genes i expect i could be missing it.

Regards Jean

Hello Mike, sorry only found this this morning,John was born 1868 in Llanasa flintshire he was not married in 1901as he was still with his mother after that i can't find eather so i take it that his mother Jane had died by then. Thanks for reply.

Jean

Where was John Born ?

Do you know if he married ?

Why not try the Free 14 day trial from Ancestry.co.uk where you can access 1911 Census. Good Luck.

,
Would someone please help with John Griffiths.

Thank you
Jean

Nudge Up Please.
Would some one please help with John Griffiths the family moved from Flintshire to Ashton In Makerfield around 1891 i found him in the 1901 census but after that no luck.

Thanks Jean

Seaham Lass,
sorry for the delay in replying i was looking under Parry thaught i would just have another check when i found your message so i will look under Farry later.

Thanks again
Jean

To BatMansDaughter,
Thank you for other info will do that.

Regards Jean.

1851 St Asaph
Jane Farry
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Brynpolyn
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: St Asaph
Sub-registration district: St Asaph
ED, institution, or vessel: 7b
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Farry 47
Jane Farry 41
Mary Farry 10


Image reads Parry and Jane Parry is 17, not 41

Hi Jean,

sorry for the delay... school run.

If you order the marriage certificate it should hopefully confirm both their fathers names and occupations.... that why you should be able to trace them with their parents on the 1851 census, often the witnesses were family too.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter.
Sorry for not replying sooner. Thank you for your help it looks good as i said i could'nt find it myself thanks again.

Regards Jean

Liz 47,
First let me say sorry for not answering you before but this is first time i checked from yesterday. Now i have no info on him but thank you anyway.

Regards Jean