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thanks for all the census detail - they certainly got through a number of servants then didn't they...?!

The William Brown and Andrew Brown have also 'disappeared' - they were from George Brown's first marriage to Margaret Peden. Also if I remember rightly, Andrew was down as married on the census, but no sign of his wife. He was in the family Drapers business, whilst William was studying to be a docor...

Just for reference

1901
Name: John Brown
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 597
Registration district: Kilmarnock
Civil parish: Kilmarnock
Town: Kilmarnock
County: Ayrshire
Address: 11 Witch Road
Occupation: Architects Assistant
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_228
Household Members: Name Age
George Brown 63
John Brown 25
Mary Brown 22
Robert Brown 20
Georgina Brown 17
Andrew Brown 40
Jeanie Weir 16

1891
Name: Georgina Brown
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jeanie
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 597
Registration district: Kilmarnock
Civil parish: Kilmarnock
Town: Kilmarnock
County: Ayrshire
Address: 11 Witch Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_208
Household Members: Name Age
George Brown 53
Jeanie Brown 47
Graham Brown 23
Jeanie F Brown 18
John Brown 15
Mary Y Brown 12
Robert F Brown 10
Georgina Brown 7
Williamina Cuthbertson 17

1881
Name: Mary Young Brown
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jeanie Anderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 597
Registration district: Kilmarnock
Civil parish: Kilmarnock
Town: Kilmarnock
County: Ayrshire
Address: Alma Cot Witch Rd
ED: 22
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_190
Household Members: Name Age
George Brown 43
Jeanie Anderson Brown 37
William Brown 19
Graham Adams Brown 13
Jeanie Fulton Brown 8
John Brown 5
Mary Young Brown 3
Robert Adams Brown 9 Mo
Annie Love 19

marvellous stuff this Cathy...dont think I would have found all this without your help!!
Can I throw another Brown into the Canadian pot...?!
Robert, Mary and Georgina had another brother who I've 'lost' searching in Scotland....so just wondering if he too, crossed the pond?
He is unfortunate to have the name of John Brown...no middle name that I know of! DOB 24/01/1876 in Kilmarnock, SCO. Last seen in the SCO 1901 census as an architect's assistant. No death recorded in SCO that I can find...
I find this Canadian emigration very interesting as these relatives' grand parents emigrated to Oz in 1865 and was so sure that's possibly where these folks had gone...
many thanks, once again...

Robert in Gleichen 1906

1906 Census Page Data
District: AB Calgary District (#19)
Subdistrict: 08 (Townships 23, 24, 25 in ranges 22, 23, townships 24, 25 in range 24, townships 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 in ranges 25, 26, townships 22, 23, 24, 25 in range 27,and those parts of townships 22, 23 in ranges 22, 23, 24 lying n[orth of the Blackfoot Indian Reserve, all west of the 4th M]) Page 2
27 18 Brown Robert Head M S 25

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e049/e001212026.pdf

A useful general gateway is:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

For passenger lists - they're indexed by ship, but with the info posted above, no worries:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-130-e.html

For census: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html
1916 is just on Ancestry.
1901-1911 - use AG first and note geographic info & page #, then use the LAC links

Peter
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Alberta / Medicine Hat / 40 Townships 18 / page 9

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001929709.pdf
[T18 R21 W4M]

Robert
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Alberta / Medicine Hat / 49 Townships 21 / page 12

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001929809.pdf
[Gleichen Town]


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php
Gleichen PO - SE Sec. 13, Twp. 22, R. 23, W4M

Don't know Peter's section #, so assuming SE13, Peter is 24 m S & 12 m E of Robert

Found her at last!

Name: Georgena Brown
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 29 Mar 1910
Vessel: Ionian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ionian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-4736

Marvellous Cathy! Cant find a marriage in Scotland....but Ida Rose doesn't round a very Scottish name. It says here she was born in England, so could have been an English marriage...or in Canada as she emigrated two years earlier than Robert. Does the census say what relationship Helen Cretin is...could have been a domestic i suppose...

This is the family in 1916 Canada Census

Name: Ida Rose Brown
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 41
Est. Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1903
Home in 1916: 19, Bow River, Alberta
Address: 22, 22, W of 4, Sub Division Gleichen
racial_or_tribal_origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Household Members: Name Age
Robert A Brown 35
Ida Rose Brown 41
Malcolm Graham Brown 5
Helen Cretin 16>>>>>>>>>> Servant Nursemaid

Hi Cathy - this could well be him - same town near Calgary...which is possibly why Mary et al went there a few years later...could try and verify his his marriage...he may have got married in Scotland before emigrating ...
These finds always throw up more questions don't they...!
Great!

Possible?
1911 Census Canada
Name: Robert A Brown
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 30
Birth Date: Jun 1880
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1905
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: Alberta
District: Medicine Hat
District Number: 4
Sub-District Number: 49
Place of Habitation: Gleichen
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert A Brown 30
Ida Rose Brown 34
Malcolm Graham Brown 5/12

Name: Ida Rose Brown
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 34
Birth Date: Dec 1877
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Alberta
District: Medicine Hat
District Number: 4
Sub-District Number: 49
Place of Habitation: Gleichen
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert A Brown 30
Ida Rose Brown 34
Malcolm Graham Brown 5/12

many thanks for all this Cathy - didn't know Jean had two middle names - after her father and her mother!
Mary's sister Georgina also came out on this ship I think...but she was headed for Winnipeg - the others to Gleichen, Alb. Last seen on the 1916 census in Winnipeg..
Also their brother, I think went too - found a death index for a Robert Adams Brown in Vancouver in 1941 - would you know how I might verify this to make sure he's mine?
many thanks...

thanks Viv....dont use this very often as you may have gathered!

Possible death?
Name: Ian Cameron MacLean
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Death Date: 25 Jun 1934
Place of Death: Vancouver
Registration #: 1934-09-490924
bca #: B13150
gsu #: 1952856

Peter Maclean m Mary Young Brown Blytheswood Glasgow 1906

Jean Adams Brown Maclean born Dennistoun Glasgow 1907

From scotlandspeople:

Here they are coming out to Canada in 1910

Name: Peter MacLean
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Date of Arrival: 29 Mar 1910
Vessel: Ionian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ionian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-4736

Name: Mrs. Mary Y MacLean
Gender: Female
Age: 31 1/2
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Date of Arrival: 29 Mar 1910
Vessel: Ionian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ionian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-4736

Name: Jeana B MacLean (Jean A B Maclean on original image)
Gender: Female
Age: 2 1/2
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Date of Arrival: 29 Mar 1910
Vessel: Ionian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ionian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-4736

Cathy

1911 Census for Alberta

Name: Peter Mc Lean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Date: Mar 1875
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1909
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: Alberta
District: Medicine Hat
District Number: 4
Sub-District Number: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Mc Lean 36
Mary Mc Lean 32
Jean Mc Lean 3


Cathy

..here's what I have on the Maclean/Brown clan in Canada so far....
Hector Fitzroy Maclean died in Victoria in 25 Sept. 1975. B. Alberta 1915. He was married to Catherine Cooper, but cant trace a marriage so far....might of course have married in Alberta. Also dont have any children for them... Parents Peter and Mary Young Maclean....(both died in Vancouver)

Jean Adams Maclean - born in Scotland in 1883 emigrated with parents, Peter and Mary Young Maclean in 1911 to Gleichen Alb.
Disappeared thereafter...could have married of course.

Georgina Brown - emigrated with Peter and Mary, but last traced in 1916 census in Winnipeg as a "Roomer" - occupation Typist or Domestic? Born Scotland 15th Oct. 1908.

Robert Adams Brown - found death index in Vancouver, but not sure if he is mine. Date of death: 21 October, 1941. Born Scotland 29th June, 1880.
(Geogina and Robert's parents were George Brown and Jean Anderson Adams - from Scotland.)

Hope these details are helpful.....
regards,
Janette


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viv

Message from Janette

...here's what I have on the Maclean/Brown clan in Canada so far....
Hector Fitzroy Maclean died in Victoria in 1975. B. Alberta 1915. He was married to Catherine Cooper, but cant trace a marriage so far....might of course have married in Alberta. Also dont have any children for them...
Jean Adams Maclean - born in Scotland in 1883 emigrated with parents, Peter and Mary Young Maclean in 1911 to Gleichen Alb.
Disappeared thereafter...could have married of course.
Georgina Brown - emigrated with Peter and Mary, but last traced in 1916
census in Winnipeg. Born Scotland 188?.


And another one to come.

Is this him Janette?

1916 Census Alberta
Name: Hector Fitzroy MacLean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Est. Birth Year: 1915
Birthplace: Alberta
Home in 1916: 19, Bow River, Alberta
Address: Eighth Avenue, Eighth, Ave, Town of Gleichen
racial_or_tribal_origin: Scottish (Scotish)
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Household Members: Name Age
Peter MacLean 41
Mary Young MacLean 38
Jean Adams MacLean 8
Ian Cameron MacLean 4
Hector Fitzroy MacLean 1

Death record?
Name: Hector Fitzroy MacLean
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Death Date: 25 Sep 1975
Place of Death: Saanich
Registration #: 1975-09-014343
bca #: B13345
gsu #: 2050527


Cathy

And when would that be please?
Any dates at all?
When born and where would help people to try and help you...