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Melody

Melody Report 7 Mar 2010 19:58

hi, so far i have just been able to find the birth for william 19/11/1815
and christening for agnes 02/12/1821
poss marriage for agnes richard slee 11/05/1843
found eleanor too christening 25/07/1819
i wonder wgere eleanor is in the 1841 census? could it be over 2 pages?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 18:34

For the record this is the entry I found in the 1841 census

Name: Margaret Hutchinson
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Gender: Female
Where born: Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Kirkby Stephen
Hundred: East
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Stephen
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom Hutchinson 47 (the image says John....poor writing again!) occ Carpenter
Margaret Hutchinson 48
Wm Hutchinson 25
Agnes Hutchinson 19

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 18:30

Yes, I think it is the same John & Margaret in the 1871 census. Eleanor Kitchen born Kirkby Stephens is listed as widow and daughter she is a dressmaker. John Kitchen, I believe, is Eleanor's son even though it says he is a lodger; his occupation is Plumber. You will also note he was born in Rochdale so I think this might be Eleanor's marriage
Marriages Dec 1844
HUTCHINSON Eleanor Rochdale 21 567
KITCHEN Charles Rochdale 21 567

So looks like perhaps another sister of Williams

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 18:23

With regards to the 1861 census....yes I think that is the same John. Originally, I thought the occupation looked like Callcenter....did they have them in those days?! lol. But when I've looked at it again I think it says 'Carpenter employs 8 men'.

Melody

Melody Report 7 Mar 2010 18:21

thank you am going to have alook now for the children of john and margaret , and for there marriage will let you know if i find anything
kind regards
melody.x

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 18:16

Yes, I think that is the same John in the 1851 census. You will note that he is listed as married.

If you put Margaret's details in you get

1851 census

Name: Margaret Hutchinson
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England

Civil parish: Wharton
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkby Stephen
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Appleby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Herd Wilkinson 27
Sarah Herd Wilkinson 26
Dorothy Herd Wilkinson 10 Mo
William Herd Wilkinson 62
Elizabeth Hutchinson 19 Servant b Crosby Garrett
Robert Thompson 47
Thomas Herd 32
>>>Margaret Hutchinson 58
Mary Blades 28

Sarah Herd Wilkinson, I believe, is Sarah Hutchinson.....perhaps a daughter and then sister to your William

Marriages Mar 1849
Hutchinson Sarah E. Ward 25 443
Wilkinson Thomas Hird E Ward 25 443

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 18:09

Sorry, I forgot to say that the entry I have shown above is for the 1841 census

Melody

Melody Report 7 Mar 2010 17:57

hi thanks for the help much appreciated, i think i have found john hutchinson in the 1851 census year of birth for him is 1794 kirkby his occ is carpenter and wheelright living on his own cant find him on here for the 1841,
in 1861 if its the same john he is down as living with his wife margaret his occ is collieuter graffer and dean, but then in 1871 he is living with his wife margaret and a son and daurghter but i cant make out there names occupation back down as carpenter, do you think it is the same man ?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Mar 2010 16:34

By looking through the census pages for the registration district of Kirkby Stephens I have found the following entry it's in District 7 which covers Kirkby Stephens itself and is on Page 14

John Hutchinson 47 occ Carpenter
Margaret 48
Wm aged 25
Agness 19

Of course, Margaret might not be the mother of Wm & Agness because as we know a lot of women died young in childbirth in those days.

There is another Hutchinson family living next door but I can't for the life of me fathom out the name of the male head (could it be Anthony perhaps?)....he is a Shoemaker aged 47 (perhaps a brother?) married to Rachel aged 49. They have a son aged 10 with what looks like the same name as his father.

In this same district is Elizabeth Loadman aged 25 (who it is believed to be your William's wife) living with her mother Dinah Loadman aged 35 occ School Mistress.

In District 6 there is a William aged 25 occ Carpenter and Mary 20 but this district covers Winton and I think William & Mary are husband & wife. Also, I think this might be William that appears in the 1891 census which is not your William.

Astra

Astra Report 7 Mar 2010 06:43

There is this submitted entry on the IGI which I think is where your information came from as there is one for his birth and another for his death but they are all submitted. There are quite a few others including the one I posted above and there is a submitted entry for that one saying that William died at a couple of months old.

WILLIAM HUTCHINSON
Pedigree
Male
Family

:
Father: JOHN HUTCHINSON
Family
Mother: MARGARET OR JANE

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH MARGARET LOADMAN
Family
Marriage:
22 JUN 1844 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England
Husband Age at Marriage: 29
Wife Age at Marriage: 27


and then there is this one which has the same date of death

WILLIAM HUTCHINSON
Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
15 JAN 1816 Winton, Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England
Death:
07 DEC 1862
Burial:

Parents:
Father: THOMAS HUTCHINSON
Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

Melody

Melody Report 6 Mar 2010 21:41

hi can you help me again please looking for william hutchinsons parents william was born 19/11/1815 in kirkby died 07/12/1862 could you help me find out who his parents are and if he had any brothers or sisters please
kind regards
melody.x

Melody

Melody Report 6 Mar 2010 19:22

hi i have sent you a PM
i have william hutchinson down as being born on 19/11/1815 in kirkby stepen, not sure who is parents are father could be a john hutchinson but am not a 100%

Astra

Astra Report 6 Mar 2010 19:08

Don't put it on here Sugar. Click on my name and send me a PM and let me know exactly what you want.
Astra
xx

Astra

Astra Report 6 Mar 2010 19:07

Just as an added extra to the info on William I have found this
In 1871 there is a John Hutchinson as a visitor where Elizabeth is a servant. He could be a relative
These are all the children of Adam Hutchinson and Elizabeth Brunskill. John and William could be brothers as Mallerstang is just outside of Kirkby Stephen. Worth a thought

Elizabeth Hutchinson 17 Nov 1794 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1794
Jane Hutchinson 27 Feb 1798 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1798
Adam Hutchinson 15 Dec 1799 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1799
Ann Hutchinson 28 Mar 1802 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1802
Joshua Hutchinson 4 Nov 1804 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1804
Ann Hutchinson 7 Feb 1808 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1808
John Hutchinson 15 Nov 1810 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1810
Robert Hutchinson 31 Oct 1813 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England abt 1813
William Hutchinson 11 Sep 1818 Mallerstang, Westmorland, England 3 Sep 1818

Scratch that. On the original John is a Hewitson. Adam and Elizabeth could still be William's parents though.

Melody

Melody Report 6 Mar 2010 18:58

if i put my email on here would one of you please send me coppies?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 6 Mar 2010 18:48

Looks like she's a Servant!

1871 census

ame: Elizabeth Hutchinson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Westd, Kirkby Stephen
Civil parish: Kirkby Stephen
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Stephen
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Hewitson 68 occ Landowner
Isabella Hewitson 70
Elizabeth Hutchinson 15
John Hutchinson 65 image reads John Hewitson Visitor occ Landowner

Address Main St Kirkby Stephens

Melody

Melody Report 6 Mar 2010 18:47

am not a member of ansestry thanks for your help i really appreciate it
kind regards
melody.x

Astra

Astra Report 6 Mar 2010 18:46

Elizabeth is a Servant in 1871

Elizabeth Hutchinson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Westd, Kirkby Stephen
Civil parish: Kirkby Stephen
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Stephen
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Hewitson 68
Isabella Hewitson 70
Elizabeth Hutchinson 15
John Hutchinson 65

Astra

Astra Report 6 Mar 2010 18:45

Found it on Ancestry Melody

Melody

Melody Report 6 Mar 2010 18:45

thank belle
i wonder where my great gran is in 1871?
kind regards
melody.x