Find Ancestors

Sorry Splke i seemed to have taken a bit out of your thread But sometimes it does yield some helpful info. .

G'Day spike, Thats OK. Just to let you know I checked the original view for Emma and she was born in Bristol.

Then I checked FBMD with a Phonetic search its down as
SWORMANN, Emma b. Jun 1850. Bristol 11 1[7_]6
I checked the original View and the transcriber did verry well to get any thing off the page as its near Illegible.

Frederick Mar 56, Herman Dec 58, Henry Dec 60 all St.George in the East, come straight up correctly.

Anne Maria Sworman b. Sep 1852 St G E

Regards
Graham

I'm just wondering if the first Freddrick is my Great Great Grandfather as the spelling of the second has an o and not an a? Or are they Father and Son. but thanks for the info Spike

Graham your a Star thanks for that, Now all I've got to do is work out what happened to Anne and Emma as there is also another Daughter Louisa.

Goulston Road is near Whitechapel High Street, its also near to Brick Lane. Spike

thanks Ann
Very elusive they are. I have grt grandfather living with elder son & his family in Charlton SE London on the 1907 death cert of grt grandma. but by 1911 he was no longer with his DIL, now widowed, and no death found for him . I think he may have gone back to Germany.

only spelling of the name I can find

17. Gottlieb Faas - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 16 JAN 1819 Salmbach, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wuerttemberg

18. Gottlieb Faas - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 13 MAR 1821 Engelsbrand, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wuerttemberg

19. Gottlieb Friedrich Faas - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 18 AUG 1824 Englesbrand,Neuenbuerg Oa, , , Wuerttemberg

20. Gottlieb - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 APR 1828 Evangelisch, Schoemberg Neuenbuerg, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wuerttemberg


loads of them actually all from the same place

Thanks Sharon and Ann My grandad was born c 1880 in Germany he died aged 31 in 1911. the first record I have is the birth of the youngest son Gottlieb in Bradford in 1889.I have the cert, then the family are in Limehouse on the 1891 and some of the family in Charlton SE London in 1901 and 1911 , I havent been able to find where in Germany the family came from. The name was Fahse with two umlaats over the "a" just putting the surname in on Ancestry only finds the birth/ census and one incoming entry in the 1950 for a Betty from S.Africa,
I know lots of Fahse went to the USA but whether they are of the same family I dont know with the limted info i have,
I suppose coming over in the 1880,s was why I was told no records kept on travel

Shirley,


Ann is right, I found the records on Ancestry, the original documents are very hard to read so could not get any further information.

Sharon

The National Archives | DocumentsOnline | Aliens Registratio...
Aliens Registration Cards available from The National Archives' ... date of arrival into the UK, marital status, details of any children, address, ...

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/alie... - 52k - Similar pages

Shirley - I too thought it sounded interesting so I googled -

England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 - Ancestry.co....
England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA : Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data: ...

search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1587 - 59k - Similar pages



View Record

Frederick Schwarmmon London, England date


Ann

Sharon
thats very interesting re arrival info. May i ask where you found it please
Shirley

For info:

England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about Friedrich Schwarman
Name: Friedrich Schwarman
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 11 May 1841
Country of Origin/Native of: Germany
Class: HO 2
Piece: 92
Certificate Number: 1370

The originals both state occupations as sugar Baker

England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about Frederick Schwarmmon
Name: Frederick Schwarmmon
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 29 Jul 1844
Country of Origin/Native of: Hannover, Germany
Class: HO 2
Certificate Number: 1291

Spike
1861 CENSUS
SpFindmypast.co.uk, family history in the making births, marriages & deaths census migration military living relatives specialist records Help & Advice 1861 census - household transcription
Person: SCHWARMANN, Frederick
Address: 8, Chapel Street, St George In The East

Cost:
You will be charged 3 credits for a transcript and 3 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SCHWARMANN, Frederick Head Married M 46 1815 Sugar Baker
Germany VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Martha Wife Married F 46 1815
Strand
Middlesex VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Emma Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
...
Gloucestershire VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Anne Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Frederick Son M 5 1856 Scholar
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Herman Son M 2 1859
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW
SCHWARMANN, Henry Son M 0 (6M) 1861
St Georges
Middlesex VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG09 Piece:
280 Folio:
145 Page:
56

Registration District:
St George-In-The-East Sub District:
2 St Paul EnumerationDistrict:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christchurch

Civil Parish:
St George in the East Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Chapel Street, St George In The East County:
London, Middlesex




Regards, Graham

Where is Goulston Road?

I have a German grand father born c 1880 .the family came to the UK between the 1881 census and 1889 when the youngest son was born in Bradford .
I enquired at the National Archives when looking for poss naturalization(none found) if there were any records of passengers coming to the UK from Germany and was told none kept ,They would have come over as foot passengers on the cross ferry so no records were kept

I am also looking for Gurkasch that came over to England in the 1940's.They are not on record either. Annie

My great grandfather, great grandmother and great uncles came over here from Germany (Prussia) c1898. He was a baker. I don't mean to dampen your spirits but I have never found any record of him coming into this country and it might be the same for you and your ancestor.

Have you found him on any censuses? Does it say anything about him being naturalised? There are naturalisation records that might help you. My great grandparents were never naturalised but I was lucky to get in touch with a cousin on here who had the birth certificate of her great grandfather, my great uncle Harry (born Heinrich) and from there I contacted record offices local to that area. Six months later after hearing nothing, I got very lucky and the record office had found the familienbuchs that were to do with my two lines.

Best of luck

Chloe

Spike we do need a surname? Annie

Ancestry.co.uk have shipping lists have you searched for him there