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Non Existent Birth _Messervy 1889/1890 CLOSED _ A

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Marina

Marina Report 16 Feb 2010 18:17

HI There
Apologies for delay all!
William Ernest remarried in 1904 to a lady called Daisy. His first marriage was to an Ada Jane Le Riche. She divorced him in spectacular style in 1902 on grounds of cruelty and adultery (I have copies of the court papers from the national archives and he really was beast to be polite so I can only assume he had the looks and plenty of smooth talking)
I don't think Jesse and William ever married and looking att he 1911 census it shows Jesse as married and total children to her marriage was three!?!?!? I wonder if Lily.Lilby etc came from elsewhere (my imagination is wondeerful as accordingto the NA papers there were two deceased children to his marriage with Ada)
Looking at Jesses death cert it states her as a widow of Francis Henry Messervy, a commercial traveller which completely threw me as I believed Francis was her son!! Her death was reg'd by Percy Messervy
I have searched for Lily's birth under all variations of name and wonder if it isa worthwhile task for me to search parish baptism records in Forest Gate for any baptism of Lily???
She came from somewhere - just where! Was she born Fox or Messervy or was she a product of a dalliance with some other lady and Jesse tookher on?? I have a vivid imagination!
Oh dear .... the search continues ....

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 17:56

There's a William Ernest Messervy marriage in 1904 -- the page transcription shows 3 grooms and 2 brides -- do you know whom he married, Marina?

Jessie's death was reg as Messervy

Name: Jessie M Messervy
Death Registration Month/Year: 1950
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 183

but it's looking like they weren't married ...

Any chance she had been married before? Can't see such a marriage ...

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 16 Feb 2010 17:44


Just a note - never go by any site's transcription of census records alone; always look at the original image.

L transcribed as S and vice versa are among Ancestry's most common errors, for instance.

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 Feb 2010 17:33

1911 census
HOUSEHOLD MESSEROY FRANCIS HENRY M 1896 15 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD MESSEROY JESSIE MATILDA F 1864 47 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD MESSEROY MAUD LILIAN F 1897 14 Camberwell London
HOUSEHOLD MESSERVY WILLIAM E M 1862 49 Camberwell London

Barbara

Barbara Report 16 Feb 2010 17:06

Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
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Messervy William Ernest Wandsworth 1d 807
Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Messervy Francis Henry Wandsworth 1d 757

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Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Messervy Maud Lilian Camberwell 1d 906

Marina

Marina Report 16 Feb 2010 15:53

is there any other way of tracking down a birth?
Lily/Lilby/Silby/Sylvia Myrtle Messervy!!!
Born approx 1889/1890 in Forest Gate, essex (info as per 1891 census which states she was 2 years and was called Lilby)
1901 census says she was Sylby and aged 10
Lily's (Lily Myrtle) marriage cert in June 1915 to George Henry Merrick (St Judes Peckham) advises she was 25 years old.
Her death cert in 1923 says she was 35 years old and states her name as Sylvia Myrtle Merrick (death witnessed and reg'd by widow GH Merrick)
Her mother was one Jesse Matilda Messervy (nee FOX) and father was a William Ernest Messervy.
Have searched all combo's of Lily's christian name mixed with either Fox or Messervy so I am guessing I am looking too hard and can't see the wood for the trees!! Is it poss to search for all children borne by her mother or am I being unrealistic??
(her father was a "ladys man" whose secret escaped in 1902)
Ever hopeful