Find Ancestors

Big round of applause for Colin methinks!!
Jan

Hi there

Had a bit of time to think about this one. I have been in touch with the MAEustace tree on Ancestory which has turned out to be my great uncles son who is also on this hunt to find out what happened to Edith Mary Eustace. I was told she died when her children were young but according to my canadian uncle she apparently tried to make contact with her son In canada in the early 1940 he did not want to see her and I am wondering if the death in Dartford kent is her, but where is the record to say she returned to the Uk.Is there anywhere else we can look or go to to find her. We have been told that she may have been the cause of the break up of her sisters marriage her sister is Florence Cutler married name Salaman she was married to ernest`S` Salaman and it appears that the Eustaces and Salamans lives were closley entwined. According to my Canadian relative Salaman was a solicitor and had Power of Attorney for John Eustace, Salaman then used this to defraud my Uncle. Florence Salaman divorced ernest in 1919 and my G Grandmother when to Canada in 1919. Any help would be great as I am at a loss as to what to do next

Hi there

Can somebody please have a look at my previous post as I have edited it with up to dat information but it was still down on the viewing list so added this so it will be seen. I am deparate to find out what happened to Edith Mary Eustace. Please any help.

Thanks Christine

does anyone know if you can view wills and probate papers on line?
Thanks

Hi Christine,

I’m Lauren, Winifred’s (Edith’s daughter) granddaughter ( daughter of her son Richard). I’m also trying to find out what happened to Edith. Did you manage to get to the bottom of things?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Christine is no longer a member of GR and cannot be contacted through this site

For INFO. One often needs to go backwards before moving forward

Name Edith Mary Cutter
Gender Female
Marriage Age 24
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1872
Marriage Date 2 Sep 1896
Marriage Place St James, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears Weybridge
Father William Cutter
Spouse John Eustace


AND...................


Name Edith M Eustace
Arrival Age 47
Birth Date abt 1873
Port of Departure St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date 19 Apr 1920
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ship Name Empress of France
Shipping Line Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number 136266

Name Edith Mary Eustace
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Age 48 Years 6 Months
Relation to Head Patient
Estimated Birth Year 1873
Residence Date 1921**************
Residence Place Stone, Kent, England
Occupation Formerly None
Inhabited Y
Institution City of London Lunatic Asylum Stone Near Dartford
Parliamentary Division Kent Pc, Dartford Div.
Registration District Dartford
Registration District Number 43
Sub registration district Dartford
Sub Registration District Number 3

Name Edith M Eustace
Gender Female
Marital Status Widow
Birth Date 1872
Residence Date 1939**************
Address 31
Residence Place Dartford, Kent, England
Occupation Tailoress
Line Number 25
Schedule Number 7
Sub Schedule Number 88
OVSPI Inmate
Enumeration District Djeh
Borough Dartford

Name Edith M Eustace
Death Age 76
Birth Date abt 1872
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Registration District Dartford
Inferred County Kent
Volume 5b
Page 520

Get a copy of the death cert..................the informant's details may prove helpful, unless she died in the institution, in which case the informant would probably be a staff member

Thanks Erika.

I’m new here and am trying to find out whether she was away into an asylum for ? Having an affair. Is there any way of getting to the bottom of this? A list of people resident at the London lunatic asylum in dartford?

Thanks so much for your help

Thanks Erika.

I’m new here and am trying to find out whether she was away into an asylum for ? Having an affair. Is there any way of getting to the bottom of this? A list of people resident at the London lunatic asylum in dartford?

Thanks so much for your help

This is so interesting Erika, thank you.

So she did inhabit the asylum. Also looks like she went to Canada and then returned. How fascinating. I wonder why.

This is so interesting Erika, thank you.

So she did inhabit the asylum. Also looks like she went to Canada and then returned. How fascinating. I wonder why.

Presumably she visited her son who was living in Canada.

Have a look at the National Archives site re records for the Asylum at Dartford (always worth a google, I inputted Dartfosd lunatic asylum records). apart from the below, there appears to be quite a lot of general info about the place.

https://discovery-cdn.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F119536

City of London Lunatic Asylum, Dartford
This page summarises records created by this Organisation
The summary includes a brief description of the collection(s) (usually including the covering dates of the collection), the name of the archive where they are held, and reference information to help you find the collection.
Collections
Number 1
Description 1859-1968: patients records, administrative and financial papers, plans
Held by The London Archives: City of London
Reference
Further information See Guide to the Corporation of London

Sorry I've just started reading this thread but Edith, parents Charles and Agnes Ellen, married John Edward Brann in 1901.

Edith Mary Cutter
1876–1956

Birth OCT 1876 • St Saviour Southwark, London

Death OCT 1956 • Lambeth RD, London, England

Charles Robert Thrower Cutter

1852–
Agnes Ellen Cutter

1856–

Spouse and children

John Edward Brann

1875–1937
Herbert John Brann

1903–1966
Hilda M Brann

1904–1986
Frederick Charles Brann

1906–1978
Leonard Walter Brann

1908–1992
Francis Robert Brann

1909–1991
Leslie George Brann

1916–1976



Name Edith Mary Cutter
Gender Female
Marriage Age 25
Birth Date abt 1876
Marriage Date 1 Dec 1901
Marriage Place St Mary the Virgin, Charing Cross Road, London, England
Father
Charles Robert Cutter
Spouse
John Edward Brann


The one who married John Eustace had a father called William?

The OP is no longer a member.........

The info I posted relates to the woman whose father was William

John Eustace was a 'gentleman' as was his father Edwin and Edith's father, William.

Ernest and Florence Salaman were witnesses. William Cutler and Susannah? M Eustace also have their names added.

Ah right ErikaH ;-)

This arrival list states she is married. Reads Eustace not Ryteoja.

Name Edith Maria Ryteoja [
]
Gender Female
Race English
Marital Status Married
Arrival Age 48
Birth Date abt 1872
Birth Place England
Arrival Date 29 Mar 1920
Arrival Port Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Final Destination London
Ship Empress of Russia
Religion Protestant

SHC Ref No:
PX/148/103
Repository:
Surrey History Centre, Woking
Date:
early 20th cent
Format:
Print
Artist:
Not known
Description:
Walton on Thames, 'Glenoe' House - view of the garden / tennis lawn; in the foreground are several figures including Edith Mary Eustace on the bicycle, and her husband John Eustace seated, wearing a light-coloured suit, next to him with the dog is his brother. [Scanned photograph]
Physical Description:
Copy
Level:
Item
Related People:
Not known (Artist)
Related Places:
Walton on Thames (Parish)
Access Status:
Open
For more information contact:
Surrey History Centre https://www.surreyarchives.org.uk




Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1921

Name Edith Mary Eustace
Gender Female
Spouse
John Eustace
Child
Cecil John Eustace b 5 Jun 1903 reg 8 Aug 1903. Father was a managing director of Glenoe, Walton on Thames.

I think the Ediths going to and from Canada are a different person. The address given for Edith in ErikaH's post is 2 Argyll Street, Ealing. This Edith is married to Charles Eustace. They also went to Australia in 1922 but returned and Edith died in 1924.

Name Edith M Eustace
Arrival Age 47
Birth Date abt 1873
Port of Departure St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date 19 Apr 1920
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ship Name Empress of France
Shipping Line Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number 136266



1921 Census Of England & Wales
2, Argyle Road, West Ealing, Ealing, Middlesex, England

Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Charles Eustace Head
Male 1872 49 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Furnishers Removal Contractor Building Mfts Employer
Edith Maria Eustace Wife
Female 1871 49 Norton St Philip, Somerset, England None