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Was a police constable in Rochdale Lancashire around 1895 ( his son was born that year in Rochdale town hall) Cant find any details about him or his Wife (who I think was called Lavina Swaine) nothing in any census for them??? Are there special records for police forces I can look into/// many thanks

Is this them in 1911

JINKS, William Henry Head Married M 60 1851 Police Pensioner Coventry Foleshill VIEW
JINKS, Levinia Wife Married F 54 1857 Household Duties Cheshire Macclesfield VIEW
JINKS, Emma Daughter Single F 24 1887 Cotton Hank Winder Lancashire Rochdale VIEW
JINKS, Ada Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cotton Doubler Lancashire Rochdale VIEW
JINKS, William Henry Son Single M 16 1895 Riller Off At Flannelette Lancashire Rochdale VIEW
TWEEDALE, Charles Robert Son-In-Law Married M 30 1881 Flannelette Raiser Lancashire Rochdale VIEW
TWEEDALE, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Married F 27 1884 Lancashire Rochdale VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24638 Reference:
RG14PN24638 RG78PN1413 RD470 SD4 ED4 SN202

Registration District:
Rochdale Sub District:
Spotland and Norden EnumerationDistrict:
4 Parish:
Rochdale

Address:
85 Pilling St Rochdale County:
Lancashire

George

Marriages Mar 1879 (>99%)
JINKS William Henry Macclesfield 8a 150
Swaine Lavinia Macclesfield 8a 150

Jan

Just pointing out this family in 1901 because they have a lot of similarities with your people:
1901 Ancestry
Name: Ada Shaw
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H
Mother's Name: Lavinia
Gender: Female
Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Spotland Nearer Side
ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Shaw 50
Lavinia Shaw 44
Elizabeth Shaw 17
Emma Shaw 14
Ada Shaw 7
William H Shaw 6
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3837; Folio: 38; Page: 10.

Maureen

It MUST be your family!!



1891 census transcription details for: 49, Mills Street, Castleton, Rochdale

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3330 Folio: 105 Page: 20


Reg. District: Rochdale Sub District: Castleton Nearer
Parish: Castleton Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Albans City/Municipal Borough: Rochdale
Address: 49, Mills Street, Castleton, Rochdale
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SHAW, Wm Hy Head Married M 48 (image looks like 40 so born 1851) 1843 Police Constable
Coventry
Warwickshire
SHAW, Lavinia Wife Married F 35 1856
Macclesfield
Cheshire
SHAW, Elizabeth A Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Rochdale
Lancashire
SHAW, Emma Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Rochdale
Lancashire


Maureen

Ancestry's version:
1891 Ancestry
Name: Wm Hy Shaw
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Larivin
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Castleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Hy Shaw 40
Larivin Shaw 35
Elisabeth A Shaw 7
Emma Shaw 4

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3330; Folio 105; Page 20;

So can anyone spot the newlyweds on the 1881??

Maureen

Here they are in 1881. Luckily confirms Lavinias maiden name.

Name: William Hy. Shaw
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Levina
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Mills St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hy. Shaw 30
Levina Shaw 24
Samuel Swain 21 brother in law

Christine

1881 England Census
Name: William Hy. Shaw
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Levina
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Mills St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Nearer
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Hy. Shaw 30
Levina Shaw 24
Samuel Swain 21




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4106; Folio: 54; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1341982.

Oh Good! Thanks,Christine and Choccy. Thought I was making things up for a minute there!

Maureen

I wonder why the name change so soon after the marriage and then back to Jinks in 1911.

Christine

Received a PM from Keri following my post on the 1911 census, i have sent a pm to Keri suggesting she returns to her thread to see the great info that has been found for her.

George

Just going to put these here in case there's some sort of match up after Keri gets the marriage certificate to see who William's father was .
1851 Ancestry
Name: Sarah Lincks
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Foleshill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b

Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Lincks 29 married
Thomas Lincks 4
>>Henry Lincks 5 Mo
Martha Shirley 19 sister

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2066; Folio: 259; Page: 24


1861 Ancestry
Name: Sarah Jinks
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 26

Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jinks 32 Occ: Shoemaker born Meriden Warwickshire
Sarah Jinks 39
Thomas Jinks 12
Henry Jinks 10

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2179; Folio: 39; Page: 11;

Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
GINKS William Henry Foleshill 16 595
SHIRLEY Sarah Foleshill 16 595

I figure if he can change his surname to Shaw,why not change from Henry to William Henry!

Maureen

The earlier census details look very promising, maybe he was William Henry but went by the name of Henry as his father was William.

Here is Lavinia in 1871


1871 England Census
about Lavined Swaine
Name: Lavined Swaine
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: MacClesfield
Civil parish: MacClesfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: MacClesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Swaine 52
Eliza Swaine 45
Nancy Swaine 16
Lavined Swaine 14
George Swaine 11
Saml Swaine 11
Thomas Baron 28 son in law
Eliza Baron 25
Alfred Baron 2

William Henry and Lavinia's children seem to be registered in the name Jinks so it's very strange isn't it?

Christine

Lancashire records office have some quite detailed information on members of the Lancashire police force in some years. It might be worth a call to them.

If they say a search would cost let me know if you would like me to look up next time I am there

they seem to be Jinks in 1908

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
TWEEDALE Charles Robert
JINKS Elizabeth Ann
Rochdale, St Clements

children registered as Jinks in 1883/86

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1883
JINKS Elizabeth A Castleton Nearer Rochdale

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
JINKS Emma Castleton Nearer Rochdale

Ann
Thanks for the tip about the Lancashire Records Office! Just looked and they have a searchable Index (of police) on line and I've just found my ancestor. When you click on the name to view, an automated form comes up so you can e-mail an enquiry. They will respond within 10 working days telling you what info they have and how much it will cost for them to photocopy and send it.

No Jinks at all on there but there is a William Henry Shaw.

Julie

my great grandfather changed his name. His grandparents didnt marry so he had his grandmothers surname. After his grandfather died leaving a will gt granddad changed his surname to his grandfathers. All his children were given grandfathers surname.

He first married with both names. As did his sister and his uncle (another child born to the same grandparents)
Various children married with the double name including my gran to her first husband. She then reverted back to a single name on her second marriage cert to my grandfather.

All very confusing till you can find a match. You might have to go further back and see where the name comes from

Gosh, I just found my way back to this link, thanks to a gentle nudge from George.

I am amazed at the mass of information... Let me apologise for not going about this in the corect way. I'm very very new to all this and a bit lost really.
My grandfather died when my dad was only a year old.

I do recal an Aunt Ada and an aunt Emma, but know of no one called shaw? So thats a mystery. I will look at all the information properly tomorrow and try to make sene of it..... Thank you so much everyone.
I will keep you posted.

What a great bunch of team work!
Keri-you will get their marriage certificate I hope??

Maureen