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I am looking for any info on Josiah William Perry, born 1867...I have tried Free BMD but cannot find a birth for him, I also cannot find any thing on 1881 census (although i may not be looking properly), it doesn't help that i do not know where he was born...He had a son also Josiah W Perry born 1898 (Hampstead) and the 1911 census has them living in Willesden.


Any help / info appreciated.

Many thanks

The 1911 gives birthplace as Kentish Town st pancras though?
Jan

hi this looks like our family
1901 census

Address 4 Clarendon Yard
Civil Parish St Pancras
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Thomas
Parliamentary Borough or Division East St Pancras
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District St Pancras
Administrative County London
Householder 1
Name Gertrude Perry
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Kentish Town
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Josiah W Perry
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Hampstead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Josiah W Perry
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 34
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Carman
Employment Status
Where Born London Kentish Town
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Mary E Perry
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 29
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Hampstead
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name William J Perry
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Kentish Town
Language
Infirmity

I know but for Josiah snr their is nothing listed for the 1881 census for that name, year of birth, or Kentish town!

1901 England Census
about Josiah W Perry
Name: Josiah W Perry
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary E
Gender: Male
Where born: Kentish Town,
London,
England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 176
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah W Perry 34
Mary E Perry 29 >>>> born hampstead
Gertrude Perry 4
Josiah W Perry 3
William J Perry 3/12


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Thank you PollyPoppet for the 1901 census, very much appreciated and unexpected, and thank you Starr1

Have you found a marriage? His father's name might help. He is a challenge though, you are right!
Jan

Hi Janet,

No I cannot find a marriage for him either.......

This is their marriage I think:

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
Busby Mary Elizabeth Pancras 1b 320
Maxfield Wallace John M Pancras 1b 320
Perry Joseph Pancras 1b 320
Sutton Amy Jane Pancras 1b 320

Because in 1911 his wife is Mary Elizabeth Hannah born 1871 Hampstead:

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
BUSBY Mary Elizabeth H Hampstead 1a 641

Looks good Janet.......possibly thought his name was Joseph

I know - I have seen this before. Was Josiah more impressive?? A bit speculative but the best I can come up with.
Jan

I think this is Mary E in 1891;

1891 England Census
about Mary Elizabeth Hannah Busby
Name: Mary Elizabeth Hannah Busby
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampstead, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Dangerfield 63
Athelstan Dangerfield 32
Egbert Dangerfield 30
Lilian Dangerfield 25
Winifred Dangerfield 17
Mary Jane Font 37
Mary Elizabeth Hannah Busby 19


Marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>Busby Mary Elizabeth Pancras 1b 320
Maxfield Wallace John M Pancras 1b 320
>>>>>>>>>>>Perry Joseph Pancras 1b 320
Sutton Amy Jane Pancras 1b 320



If you check the consequent baptisms for their children you will see that Mary uses her full cjristian names.


Dee x

If all else fails there is a birth cert! for Josiah junior

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
PERRY Josiah William Hampstead 1a 644
!

Oh thank you Dee for Marys info, much appreciated

Maybe?

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Perry George E Busby Willesden 3a 458

You might havew a couple of births now:

Births Sep 1867 (>99%)
Perry Joseph William Mile End 1c 530
Perry Joseph William Pancras 1b 138

Possible for 1881

Name: Joseph Perry
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras

Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 31 Gospel Oak Grove
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Errand Boy

Registration district: Pancras
>>>Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 23a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Perry 40
Maria Perry 34
Joseph Perry 14
Fred Perry 12
Albert Perry 10
Maria Perry 8
Charlotte Perry 5
William Perry 3
David Perry 1

That looks good poolie girl for 1881 I will keep that in mind. Thank you

Thank you to everyone, I have to go out now so if any more post are put on I thank you all in advance.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Elizabeth Gertrude Perry
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 13 Sep 1896
Father's Name: Josiah William Perry
Mother's Name: Mary Elizabeth Hannah Perry
Parish: Jesus Church
Borough: Enfield
County: Middlesex



Trying to find a baptism for a Mary Elizabeth Hannah ...


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Mary Elizabeth Hannah Busby
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 11 Feb 1872
Father's Name: William Busby
Mother's Name: Mary Emma Busby
Parish: Jesus Church
Borough: Enfield
County: Middlesex



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Christ Church, Hampstead, Register of baptisms, P81/CTC, Item 002








Looking for a marriage for Mary E Busby -


Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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********Busby Mary Elizabeth Pancras 1b 320
Maxfield Wallace John M Pancras 1b 320
********Perry Joseph Pancras 1b 320
Sutton Amy Jane Pancras 1b 320