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i am trying to trace the genner tree but am stuck, i now believe there may have been a name change from gennoe, how do i find out ? i also believe the genners originated from the lickey hills??? thanks anita

Would you give some forenames and dates?

Where are the Lickey Hills?

Jill (in Kent)

They may not have "changed" their name as such. Over the years spellings of surnames can vary. Keep an open mind when searching.

Jill

Worcestershire

my farther in law is horace genner born 1913 i quarry bank west midlands his farther was samuel born we think either quarry bank or lickey hills (birmingham area) we have recently found out the reason we are not finding any rellies there was probably a name change many years ago from gennoe

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Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Genner Horace Woodall Stourbridge 6c 112

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Genner Samuel Thomas Dudley 6c 95
PARKES Joseph Edward Dudley 6c 95
Totney Louisa Dudley 6c 95
WOODALL Martha Ann Dudley 6c 95

Are these him and (some of) his siblings?

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Genner Horace Woodall Stourbridge 6c 112 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Genner Hilda P Woodall Stourbridge 6c 116 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Genner Gwendoline F Woodall Stourbridge 6c 99

Jill

1911

GENNER MARTHA F 1883 28 Dudley Staffordshire
GENNER JOHN JAMES M 1910 11 MONTHS Dudley Staffordshire
GENNER SAMUEL M 1883 28 Dudley Staffordshire
GENNER SAMUEL THOMAS M 1907 4 Dudley Staffordshire

This might be Samuel's death (or it could be his father/uncle ??):

Samuel Genner
Death Registration Month/Year: 1932
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 85

1901: (off to check the image)

Samuel Panner
[Samuel Genner]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Princess
Gender: Male
Where born: Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Quarry Bank
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank Christchurch
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Panner 37
Princess Panner 40
Samuel Panner 18
Eliza Panner 15
John Panner 12
Albert Panner 10
Lucy Panner 9
Nellie Panner 7
Lily Panner 2

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Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2762; Folio: 108; Page: 5.


Definitely Genner on the image - although very scribbly so not surprised it was mistranscribed.

Jill

1901

Name: Samuel Panner
[Samuel Genner]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Princess
Gender: Male
Where born: Quarry Bank, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Quarry Bank
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank Christchurch
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Panner 37
Princess Panner 40
Samuel Panner 18
Eliza Panner 15
John Panner 12
Albert Panner 10
Lucy Panner 9
Nellie Panner 7
Lily Panner 2


AND...............1891

Name: Samuel Ganner
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Princess
Gender: Male
Where born: Quarry Bank

Civil parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Ganner 28
Princess Ganner 28
Samuel Ganner 8
Frank Ganner 7
Eliza Ganner 5
Elsie Ganner 3
John Ganner 2
Albert Ganner 10/12

yes freeweel thats them but then we got no further all we know is there was icke genner?

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Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
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BISHTON Sarah Stourbridge 6c 180
Ganner Samuel Stourbridge 6c 180
GREGORY Princess Stourbridge 6c 180
SKIDMORE John Stourbridge 6c 180

If you sent off for this cert it would give you Samuel's father's name:

Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
BISHTON Sarah Stourbridge 6c 180 Scan available - click to view
>>>> Ganner Samuel Stourbridge 6c 180
>>>> GREGORY Princess Stourbridge 6c 180 Scan available - click to view
SKIDMORE John Stourbridge 6c 180 Scan available - click to view

1881

Samuel GANNER Boarder (Head) M Male 18 Quarry Bank, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Frances GANNER Boarder Wife M Female 18 Quarry Bank, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Cradley Forge
Census Place Cradley, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341692
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2884 / 38
Page Number 21

1871

Name: Princess Gregory
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gregory 50
Sarah Gregory 48
Albert Gregory 14
John T Gregory 10
Princess Gregory 8
Samuel Gregory 15

1871:

Sarah Gamer
[Samuel Ganner]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Jemima
Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Gamer 35
Jemima Gamer 33
Benjamin Gamer 14
Julia Gamer 10
Sarah Gamer 7
>>>> Ann Conda M Gamer 4 (she is Ann M Genner - the Conda is Cont'd as she is at the top of the next page!)
Matilda Gamer 3
Eliza Gamer 1

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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3030; Folio: 57; Page: 11; GSU roll: 838835.

1871

Name: Sarah Gamer
[Samuel Ganner]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Jemima
Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank
Town: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Gamer 35
Jemima Gamer 33
Benjamin Gamer 14
Julia Gamer 10
Sarah Gamer 7
Ann Conda M Gamer 4
Matilda Gamer 3
Eliza Gamer 1

The only "Icke" births I can pull up on FreeBMD:

Births Jun 1855 (>99%)
Bird Ickerman Marylebone 1a 439 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
Bacon Ickermann Chelsea 1a 201 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
TETLEY Icke Doncaster 9c 728 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
BULLOUGH Ickerman Blackburn 8e 450 Scan available - click to view