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Marriage of Arthur Frederick Scott 1883-1893 in London or Kent.
His wife died 1900-1901, probably in Harrow, Middlesex.

Thanks, Julia

Do you know the name of his wife???


There are several Arthur Frederick Scott's shown in the marriage listings!



sylvia

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When and where was Arthur born?

Only one marriage in home counties in rough time-scale

Name: Arthur Frederick Scott
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1421


He married one of these

Emily Susannah Chapman
Alice Jane Clark


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1901 census would suggest that the marriage was to Emily - and it was his second

Name: Arthur F Scott
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily S
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur F Scott 44
Emily S Scott 34
William P Scott 20
Edith L Scott 16
Adelaide A Scott 14
John R Scott 4
Adelaide S Scott 40 Niece

No, my AF Scott was baptised New Brompton, Gillingham, Kent 10 Dec 1865. Parents John & Caroline. Births Sep Q 1865,Medway 2a 395.
He wasn't married in the 1891 census.
His son Arthur was born Dec Q 1893 in Newington London.
His fourth child, Minnie Elizabeth was born Mar Q 1900 in Harrow Middlesex.
He was widowed in the 1901 census.
Who was his wife?

cor


I wish you'd told us that when you first started the thread


instead of having us flailing around in the dark




you'd probably have had your answer by now!!





sylvia

The ONLY Arthur Frederick Scott marriage tat I can find in the London marriages is the one that has already been found for you ....... to Emily Susannah Chapman


This is the only birth to father Arthur Frederick Scott in the London Baptisms

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: John Richard Scott
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 22 Nov 1896
Father's Name: Arthur Frederick Scott
Mother's Name: Emily Susannah Scott
Parish: Saint George, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Born: September 28 1896
Address:- 79 Wells St
Father occupation:- Currier



NO NO NO .... not yours .................. occupation is wrong


Plus from the marriage registration .........

Arthur is a Widower, age 37 (b. ca 1857), and his occupation is a Currier



sylvia

Just to get OUR knowledge up to spee

is this your Arthur Frederick in 1891 with his parents???


1891 Census

Name: Arthur Scott
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: New Brompton, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: New Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham

John Scott 55 b.ca 1836, Bredgar, Kent, Wheelwright
Caroline Scott 51 b.ca 1840, Headcorn, Kent
Arthur Scott 25 Wheelwright
Sydney Scott 23 Blacksmith
John Scott 20 Blacksmith
William Scott 19 Pawnbroker
Florence Scott 15 Assistant to Draper
George Scott 13 Scholar
Minnie Scott 12 Scholar
Bertie Scott 9 Scholar
Walter Scott 7 Scholar

Address:- 80 Fox Street




and in 1901

Name: Arthur Scott
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: New Brompton, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: New Brompton St Mark
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham

John Scott 66 Wheelwright
Caroline Scott 63
Arthur Scott 35 Wheelwright
Florence Scott 23
Bertie Scott 19
Minnie Scott 22
Walter Scott 19
Arthur Scott 7 b.ca 1894, Newington, London, Grandson
Victor Scott 4 b.ca 1897, Newington, Grandson
Walter Scott 5 b.ca 1896, Newington, Grandson
Minnie Scott 1 b.ca 1900, Harray, Middlesex, Granddaughter <<<< Harrow on census image??

Address:- 6 Fox Street



sylvia

You are going to ahve to buy the birth certificate for one of the 4 children

Thta will give you the mother's name and maiden name.


Then we can see if we can find a marriage registration between a Scott and that maiden name


There's no ifs, ands or buts about it ........... The children are not showing up on the Londond Baptisms listing.

Arthur Scott is not showing up on the marriages


so you'll have to bite the bullet, and pay out £7




sylvia

If only we'd had FULL info to start with.................

1901 census


Name: Arthur Scott
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, London, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: New Brompton St Mark
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
John Scott 66
Caroline Scott 63
Arthur Scott 35 Occupation: Wheelwright
Florence Scott 23
Bertie Scott 19
Minnie Scott 22
Walter Scott 19
Arthur Scott 7
Victor Scott 4
Walter Scott 5
Minnie Scott 1

What leads you think that all (or any) of the grandchildren are Arthur's offspring?

You can't have birth certs, or you'd know the mother's name

1891 census - he's at 'home'

Name: Arthur Scott
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: New Brompton, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: New Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Scott 55
Caroline Scott 51
Arthur Scott 25 Single
Sydney Scott 23
John Scott 20
William Scott 19
Florence Scott 15
George Scott 13
Minnie Scott 12
Bertie Scott 9
Walter Scott 7

Arthur's alive in 1911

SCOTT ARTHUR M 1867 44 Medway Kent
SCOTT ARTHUR M 1894 17 Medway Kent
SCOTT CAROLINE F 1838 73 Medway Kent
SCOTT FLORENCE F 1879 32 Medway Kent
SCOTT JOHN M 1834 77 Medway Kent
SCOTT VICTOR M 1898 13 Medway Kent
SCOTT WALTER M 1896 15 Medway Kent
SCOTT MINNIE F 1900 11 Medway Kent

Freewheel

the 1901 Census image does show Arthur as Widower, and all the other siblings as Single

............... so it might be the correct assumption to make


I did not succeed last night in finding the baptisms for any of the children on London Births and Baptisms though.



sylvia

Yes, thank you for that.
But it still doesn't tell me who his wife was!
I'll just have to do as Syl via says,and get a birth certificate.

As Florence is still with the family in 1911, it's entirely feasible that one, at least, of the grandchildren is hers. Unmarried mothers are not a new phenomenon