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Just thought I'ld use the local RO index to confirm LB's choice of spouses on her lookups.

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf/a/dfcdeathshistorical

1873 ROBSON Jane A
1873 PARKER John
Marriage venue - St John the Baptist
Register No./Entry No.
EJD34/291

1881 PARKER Jane A
1881 ROBSON William J
1881 ROBSON Jane A
Marriage venue - St John the Baptist
Register No./Entry No.
EJD37/282
[so the local index shows both Jane's surnames, but only when I look up a Robson]

Henry..
PM means personal message which is what this is that you have sent me,only I can see it.
I am posting it here so the others on this post can see it.

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From Henry, Hello Vivienne thanks for all that info on H R P,it has given me plenty to think about and plenty to look into.The date on his school report is May 11th 1891 and his name is down as Henry Robson, I never thought anything about it until the idea, was he Henry Robson to start with. I put it down to the fact the report was going to his home and the Headmaster who wrote it just called him by his first names.Any way as suggested I need his marriage cert. that is next. The school was not a bording school.I am not sure what PM means when it says not by PM. Kind regards Harry.

Harry...
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So LondonBelle was spot on then with her work.
Well done LB another notch in your belt there.

With the info that you have just given Harry it would have been solved much much quicker.
At least you know for next time that all info you have is needed as of course we cant see what you have in front of you.

But we are so good on here that we usually get there in the end anyhow.
Sound of of trumpets >>>:)
viv

Fingers crossed, Viv!

So when the marriage cert for Henry Robson Parker says
Father "John Parker" on it,then all this info will be a big start Harry !


Well done LB,Im with you on it that it will turn out so.
viv

Married a cousin or other relation 2nd time round maybe?

And again in the 1901 census but now Henry is Harry

Name: William J Robson
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Robson 50
Jane Anne Robson 49
Joseph P Robson 26
>>>>Harry P Robson 24 I think his occ is Whitesmith
William T Robson 18
Stephen Robson 15
Ralph Burnp 50

Snap Viv

Yep Margaret that's what it is looking like.....how confusing is that!!

Have i got this right?
She was Jane Ann Robson who married John Parker who died and then she married William Jeffrey Robson.

think you may have cracked it there LB,here they are in ELSWICK IN 1891.
T he Ps for Parker?on Joseph and Henrys name.

1891 England Census
about Henry P Robson
Name: Henry P Robson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William J
Mother's Name: Jane A
Gender: Male
Where born: Howdon, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

William J Robson 40
Jane A Robson 39
Joseph P Robson 16
Henry P Robson 14
William T Robson 8
Stephen Robson 5

Following on from the 1881 census above I've found this entry in the 1891 census and it's in Elswick

Name: William J Robson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane A
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 36 Northbourne St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Robson 40 occ Steam Engine Fitter
Jane A Robson 39 b Morpeth Northumberland
Joseph P Robson 16
>>>>Henry P Robson 14
William T Robson 8
Stephen Robson 5

Children all born Howden

This looks as if it could be interesting

1881 census
Name: Henry Parker
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Wallsend, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 24
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane A. Parker 29 widow
Henry Parker 4
Joseph Parker 6
William J. Robson 30 boarder

This marriage
Marriages Dec 1873
PARKER John Newcastle T. 10b 136
ROBSON Jane Ann Newcastle T. 10b 136

This death
Deaths Jun 1878
PARKER John 28 Tynemouth 10b 88

Then this marriage
Marriages Jun 1881
PARKER Jane Ann Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 116
ROBSON William Jeffrey Newcastle T. 10b 116

Hopefully, as you say the marriage cert will shed some light on this

Then he should be on the 1891 census there under Parker or Robson I would have thought.
What is the date on it Harry?
And was it a boarding school?

Could it be that his parents married the same year that he did?

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Parker Joseph Newcastle T. 10b 64
Robson Jane Isabella Newcastle T. 10b 64

Or the year before?

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Parker Edward Newcastle T. 10b 66
Robson Isabella Newcastle T. 10b 66

Thanks Vivienne, Another rapid response,I think you and Jan are right as regards a marriage cert. I must try to get one,I cannot find anything about him on the census or birth records.all I have got of his is a school report from Elswick Works School in 1891. Iwill let you know if and when I get a cert. Thanks again Harry.

Could well be LB,wont be the first or the last if that were the case.

The marriage cert may give some clues.

Yes, Viv just wondering if perhaps his mother married or remarried a Mr Parker and Henry then took on the surname of his stepfather hence Henry Robson Parker

Snap,,,Great minds think alike LB..

I was just wondering that.

I'm wondering if he was born Henry Robson? As either of these 2 births could fit the bill

Births Jun 1877
Robson Henry John Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 34

Births Sep 1878
ROBSON Henry Newcastle T. 10b 21

I was just about to post that death Jan,its the only one that could be him I think.

Definately the marriage cert is needed here.

Glad it's not just me Vivienne! I have looked on census reports but no joy.

There is this possible death, but won't help in your search:

Deaths Mar 1910
PARKER Henry 33 Newcastle T. 10b 75

The marriage cert might be a necessity here.

Jan

Henry - crossed posts there! Let us know if/when you get the cert - on here, not by PM though!
Best of luck