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mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Dec 2009 00:50

Maybe ???

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
Brown James Dudley 6c 181
Davies Sarah Ann Dudley 6c 181
Hubbard Henry Dudley 6c 181
Punter Fanney Dudley 6c 181

Dudley rego D includes Sedgley - there are also a couple of possible births:

Births Dec 1872 (>99%)
BROWN Fanny Dudley 6c 154
Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Brown Fanny Dudley 6c 80

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 8 Dec 2009 20:17

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Quay St Pendleton Salford

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN24035 RG78PN1383 RD465 SD3 ED22 SN303

Reg. District: Salford Sub District: Greengate
Parish: Pendleton Enum. District: 22
Address: 1 Quay St Pendleton Salford
County: Lancashire
GALLOWAY, William John Head Married M 31 1880 Glass Bottle Maker Lancs West Derby Liverpool
GALLOWAY, Clara Wife Married
2 years F 24 1887 Lancs Newton Heath Manchester
GALLOWAY, Fanny Daughter Single F 1 1910 Lancs Bradford Manchester


Maureen

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 8 Dec 2009 18:32

Pm from Sue.

You are on the right track, I think it say's she was 23 on the cert, but it is hard to make out. I think date of marriage was 24, Oct 1909. Regards Sue

This could be her birth reg as Newton comes under this registration.

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Brown Clara Manchester 8d 248

Christine

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 21:40

Once more then I'm orfff................

Alice

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 20:09

Hopeful nudge

Alice

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 19:09

Sue:

What was Clara's age on her marriage certificate? It would help.........

Alice

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Dec 2009 18:59

Sue, It's not you who has confused us it's the details which Sheila posted.

Christine

Susan

Susan Report 7 Dec 2009 18:56

Thanks for all the help, sorry if I confused some of you but no one is perfect. Cheers Sue.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Dec 2009 18:50

That's what I was thinking Sheila meant originally but the Sarah we found was born in Staffordshire not Surrey and she was a widow in previous years.

Christine

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 18:48

Presumably Sarah???

Alice

confused.com

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Dec 2009 18:42

I'm confused now Sheila.

Who had been married for 6 years on 1911 census with retired husband.

Christine

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 18:32

Aargh - I don't know where to go now.

Alice

Sheila

Sheila Report 7 Dec 2009 18:25

according to 1911 census she was living in Holloway had been married for 6 years and was born Surry Brixton, husband retired and Clara was a dressmaker
Regards
Sheila

Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 17:45

Aaah!

BROWN, James Head Married M 32 1849 Iron Moulder
Wedgebury
Staffordshire VIEW
BROWN, Sarah A Wife Married F 26 1855 Wife
Sedgeley
Staffordshire VIEW
BROWN, Fanny Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Sedgeley
Staffordshire VIEW
BROWN, Lillian Daughter Single F 2 1879 Daur
Newton Heath
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Bertha Daughter Single F 1 1880 Daur
Newton Heath
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4009 Folio:
31 Page:
55

Registration District:
Prestwich Sub District:
Newton EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Newton Municipal Borough:
Address:
32, Croft St, Newton County:
Lancashire

Alice

ps. a bit late, but I agree with you Christine (lol)

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 7 Dec 2009 17:38

I don't think it's a long shot Alice as tracing the family back the father is James and occupation Iron Moulder.

We need confirmation of Clara's age though as original posting says born 1876.


1891 England Census
about Clara Brown
Name: Clara Brown
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Newton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Newton St Ann
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 30, Lancashire St



Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Ann Brown 36
Fanny Brown 18
Lilian Brown 12
Bertha Brown 11
Elizabeth Brown 7
Thomas C Brown 6
Clara Brown 4



1881 England Census
about James Brown
Name: James Brown
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Wedgebury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Newton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 32 Croft St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:



Occupation: Iron Moulder

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Brown 32
Sarah A. Brown 26
Fanny Brown 8
Lillian Brown 2
Bertha Brown 1

Christine




Alice in Wonderland

Alice in Wonderland Report 7 Dec 2009 17:14

A very long shot, but it begs the question -

Sarah is a 'widow' - (query for James appearing on marriage cert), but Newton Heath is here......... Clara's date of birth fits in with Jan's and Chris's find too

BROWN, Sarah An Head Widow F 41 1860 Monthly Nurse
Sedgley
Staffordshire VIEW
BROWN, Lily Daughter Single F 22 1879 Cotton Winder
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Bertha Daughter Single F 21 1880 Cotton Winder
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW

BROWN, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Winder
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Thomas C Son Single M 16 1885 Iron Turner
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
BROWN, Clara Daughter Single F 14 1887 Cotton Reacher
Manchester
Lancashire VIEW
DAVIS, Sarah A Mother Widow F 74 1827
Wordsley
Staffordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3759 Folio:
72 Page:
29

Registration District:
Prestwich Sub District:
Newton EnumerationDistrict:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Newton Heath St Anne

Civil Parish:
North Manchester Municipal Borough:
Address:
30, Lancashire Street, North Manchester County:
Lancashire

Alice (confused.com)!!

Susan

Susan Report 7 Dec 2009 16:53

Hi Christine,
The 1911 Address is the right one. I think Clara was born in Newton Heath Manchester Sue.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 6 Dec 2009 18:46

Hi Sue,

What is her age on the marriage cert and does that tie in with age given on the 1911 as I can't find her on the 1911. Also where does she give as birthplace?

Edit, Is this the household in 1911

HOUSEHOLD GALLOWAY CLARA F 1887 24 Salford Lancashire
OUSEHOLD GALLOWAY FANNY F 1910 1 Salford Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD GALLOWAY WILLIAM JOHN M 1880 31 Salford Lancashire

If so her age is different to what you have given.
I can't view the transcript to check birthplace but still can't find her in earlier years.

Christine

Susan

Susan Report 6 Dec 2009 17:42

sorry if I did not come back to all, not sure how too. hope I have got it now!!!!! I am not sure about witnesses names hard to make out. In the 1911 census william + clara's address is given as 1, Quay Street, Pendleton, Salford. Regards Sue

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2009 16:45

Susan has pm'd that the 1911 Clara is not hers.

She still hasn't mentioned the witnesses to the marriage.

Jan