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That's great Carli! You're back over 200 years in not time at all! Wish my own family was so easy!

Certificates are always the way to go for an accurate family tree.

Thanks Root Gatherer. I just ordered it online. Yay!
Cheers

Carli

If you buy this marriage certificate for James (born about 1791) and his second wife Mary (his first wife was Sarah Davey), you will get his father's name and occupation. It looks like the Ann living with him and Sarah in 1841 may be his mother.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Steer Mary Petworth 7 747
Stone James Petworth 7 747

Thanks so much. That is very helpful. Any suggestions on how I trace back further?
Many thanks & kind regards
Carli

Mel, that 1841 for James and Mary may be John's brother. If you look at the beginning of the thread (3rd entry) there is the 1841 for John and Sarah, and also the marriage entry which you have just come across.

Liz

Well now I wonder what is going on????

I have just found the marriage of John and Sarah.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Stone
Name: John Stone
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Thakeham
County: Sussex
Volume: 7
Page: 629



Sarah Mann 1841 Thakeham Sussex

John Stone 1841 Thakeham Sussex

Root that 1841 census for Mary Stone comes up twice. I looked at the first then the second and it is the same names but the NK child is down as 2 on the second one. It is now under Tunbridge. they must have overlapped.

Yes we did work on this family before Mel. Originally Carlii had asked for help, I think with her grandparents. I have posted the thread number on here on page 1.

I didn't look for John in 1841 so that looks hopeful.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Mary Stone
Name: Mary Stone
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbourne
County: Sussex
Volume: 7
Page: 382

I think I may have found John Stone and wife Mary with a baby of 2 weeks old and female on the 1841 census living with a James Richardson and wife Elizabeth.

1841 England Census
about John Stone
Name: John Stone
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil parish: Frant
Hundred: Rotherfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:



Registration district: Ticehurst
Sub-registration district: Wadhurst
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Richardson 50
Elizabeth Richardson 50
John Stone 24
Mary Stone 25
N K 2 Mo << census says 2 weeks not months.

Sorry Root I had to feed the family as mum has an appointment this afternoon.

I am sure I looked this family up before sometime this week!!

Mel,

I suspect that James Stone that you have found on the IGI (wife Sarah) is the same James on the 1861 census (same page as John Stone). He is with his second wife Mary, so the marriage certificate (details already posted) will give his father's name. I also think that the 1841 census (with the Ancestry correction) is the same James,with first wife Sarah (the Sarah Davey that you have found?) and possibly with his mother Ann.

JOHN STONE Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 01 SEP 1816 Pulborough, Sussex, England

Parents:
Father: JAMES STONE Family
Mother: SARAH


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.




JAMES STONE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH DAVEY Family
Marriage: 24 SEP 1808 Pulborough, Sussex, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record

Brother of Jesse

JOSEPH STONE Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 OCT 1843 Pulborough, Sussex, England


Parents:
Father: JOHN STONE Family
Mother: SARAH

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Ah this is interesting!!!!!!!! This is Jesse's Christening. Look at the names.

JESSE MANN STONE Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 MAR 1842 Pulborough, Sussex, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN STONE Family
Mother: SARAH


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

This baptism from the IGI would seem to confirm the marriage alviegal found:

JESSE MANN STONE Pedigree

Christening: 27 MAR 1842 Pulborough, Sussex, England
:
Father: JOHN STONE Family
Mother: SARAH

You will probably find the other children's baptisms there.

Sorry it was 1861. Here it is again for those helping with this thread

1861 Census

Name: James Stone
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Pulborough, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Pulborough
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Thakeham
Sub-registration district: Pulborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Stone 44 Barge Builder
Sarah Stone 41
Jesse Stone 19 Barge Builder
Joseph Stone 17 Barge Builder
Thomas Stone 10
James Stone 7
Jabez Stone 5
David Stone 2


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 612; Folio: 65; Page: 1; GSU roll: 542671.



Living next door are this family. Possible relatives - looks like a second marriage so maybe James is John's father??


Name: James Stone
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Pulborough, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Pulborough
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Thakeham
Sub-registration district: Pulborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Stone 69 Barge Builder Master employing 3 men (Could that be the 3 in the above census?)
Mary Stone 35
Elizabeth Sterr 12 Daughter in law (Step daughter)
Benjamin Stone 9
Naomi Stone 8
Martha Stone 6
Stephen Stone 4
Lydia C Stone 2
Infant Stone 1 Mo
Catherine Biddle 77 Boarder, Retired Housekeeper

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 612; Folio: 65; Page: 1; GSU roll: 542671







This 1841 census has the following correction added on Ancestry.co.uk

James Stone rather than Jas Stine
research. My 4x great grandfather and his family
Submitted by michellecoxhead on 26/07/2009

Name: Jas Stine
[James Stone]
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil parish: Pulborough
Hundred: West Easwrith
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Thakeham
Sub-registration district: Pulborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Stine 76
Jas Stine 50 Barge Builder
Sarah Stine 50
Sarah Stine 20
Jas Stine 8
Elizabeth Stine 10 Mo



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1092; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Pulborough; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 18; Page: 8; Line: 23; GSU roll: 474671.



James's second marriage - so certificate will give his father's name and occupation.


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Steer Mary Petworth 7 747
Stone James Petworth 7 747

There is this marrige but not to a Sarah. It is about the right year as Jesse was born about 1842.

JOHN STONE Pedigree
Male Family



Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MANN Family
Marriage: 11 MAY 1841 Pulborough, Sussex, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

This looks like the birth registration of Thomas b1851:

Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
STONE Thomas Thakeham 7 543

Carli

I think that John's father is probably the James on the same page as John and Sarah in 1841.

See your thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1190690