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James Woolcott1834 or 1837

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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 18:00

Ann was your grandfather Walter Vincent Woolcott??

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 17:39

Right Jane is a widow on the 1871 census and the address is Waterbeer St, St Pancras Exeter.

1871 England Census
about Jane Woolcott
Name: Jane Woolcott
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St David
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Woolcott 64
Frederick Woolcott 12 1859 London Grandson
Walter Woolcott 9 1862 London Grandson.


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 17:30

Oh are you in Devon Ann?? I am!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 17:30

Ann why are you confused with Devon it is where James parents were.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 17:28

Don't think I have the thing to look up those sort of records Alviegal!! What are you looking it up on please?

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2009 16:48

Nope, definitely Mace bearer, I think. Maybe someone else could check for me?

Liz

ann

ann Report 22 Oct 2009 16:42

Hi again,
Yes James married Harriet Hillier in May 1858.
Walter 1861 was my gt grandfather.
She died in childbirth in 1863 along with the child.
So I know my tree is correct up untill then.
Regards,
Confused of Devon,
Ann.

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2009 16:40

Devon, England, Extracted Parish Records
about Frederick Woolcott
Text: July 10 1830 Frederick Woolcott of St. Mary Major, cordwainer, by succession
Book: 1670
Collection: Devon: Exeter - Freemen 1266-1967



Could this be his death?



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Frederick Woolcott
Name: Frederick Woolcott
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 75

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 16:33

Could that have read Police Sergent?????

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 16:30

1851 England Census
about Frederick Woolcott
Name: Frederick Woolcott
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil parish: Exeter St Sidwell
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: 11 King William Terrace Exeter

Occupation: Inspector of Police

Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St Sidwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 278
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Woolcott 47 1804 Inspector of Police
Jane Woolcott 42
James Woolcott 14 APPRENTICE
Thomas Woolcott 5


alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2009 16:23

They stayed at Philadelphia Terrace and James was a hairdresser. His father was a Mace serjeant and hers was a deceased innkeeper.
Witnesses were Albert and Sarah Passmore?


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Harriet Hillier
Name: Harriet Hillier
Spouse Name: James Woolcott
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 May 1858
Parish: Saint Mary At Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Robert Hillier
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Woolcott

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 16:11

ISABELLA SOPER Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth: 12 AUG 1804

Christening: 06 AUG 1807 Bow Now Mint Meeting Or Georges Meeting House-Prexeterrian, Exeter, Devon, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN SOPER Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 16:08

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Isabella Woolcot
Name: Isabella Woolcot
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 69

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 16:04

Did James marry Harriet Hillier? as there are the banns on Ancestry but I don't have that sub to look at it.

Name: Harriet Hillier
Spouse: James Woolcott
Other: Frederick Woolcott
Marriage: date - city, Middlesex

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2009 15:57

Frederick is mentioned here.http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/EM/police19c.php

Inspector Frederick Woolcott 1848 - Mentioned in a case of goods stolen at the Globe Hotel, St Mary's Yard, the property of a travelling salesman.



He was a shoemaker in 1841 then an inspector by 1848. That's quite a jump in 7 years. But in 1841 there is a son who is a hair draper and then your James is also a hair draper.
I don't suppose Isibella's death certificate would have her husband's occupation on it, would it?
Would her address be on it? Waterbeer St was where the Police Station was situated.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 15:49

1841 England Census
about James Woolcott
Name: James Woolcott
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: St Mary Major
Hundred: Exeter City
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: Preston Street, Exeter



Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St Sidwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Woolcott 37 CORDWAINER = ( Shoe Maker)
Isibella Woolcott 36
John Woolcott 16 HAIR DRESSER
Frederick Woolcott 12
William Woolcott 10
James Woolcott 7
Elizth Woolcott 1

It seems that Isabella died and Fred. married Jane Fare.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Frederick Woolcott
Name: Frederick Woolcott
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 169


William Chappell 1848 Exeter Devon

*****Jane Fare 1848 Exeter Devon

Charlotte Pollard 1848 Exeter Devon

*****Frederick Woolcott 1848 Exeter Devon

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Oct 2009 15:42

FREDERICK WOOLLCOTT Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ISABELLA SOPER Family
Marriage: 29 MAY 1824 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

ann

ann Report 22 Oct 2009 15:22

Thank you , I'm fairly new to this games, its harder than I thought
Is there anyway I can get more info other than that which is on the records
especially for births before 1837 e.g. parents, addresses etc.
Rgards,
Ann

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2009 15:16

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Walter Vincent Woolcott
Name: Walter Vincent Woolcott
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 22 Dec 1861
Father's Name: James Woolcott
Mother's Name: Harriett Woolcott
Parish: Saint Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex


Living at Glocester Rd. Father was a hair draper.




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Frederick George Woolcott
Name: Frederick George Woolcott
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 10 Apr 1859
Father's Name: James Woolcott hair dresser
Mother's Name: Harriett Woolcott
Parish: Saint George, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

ann

ann Report 22 Oct 2009 15:15

Thank you , I'm fairly new to this games, its harder than I thought
Regards,
Ann.