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Hi

I am looking for the whereabouts in 1861 census of Thomas Hunt born 1806 in Stepney died Aug 1872 Stratford, Middlesex

1851 Census - shows family living at 142 Whitechapel Rd, Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets. Thomas head of household aged 45 and a cheesemonger, Eliza Hunt his wife aged 45 of datchett, Bucks, Thomas Hunt aged 24, George Hunt aged 22, and the following unrelated - Stephen Hermitag aged 21 (shopman), Robert Bicker aged 19 (porter), Richard Tappender aged 24 (Barman) and Mary Stelland aged 29, (House servant) who was born in Cork, Ireland



I've found the 1871 census which confirms he had anither daughter , Martha, and his marriage to her mother, another Martha but not the 1861 when he appears to be missing:-

1871 Census - Shows Thomas Hunt Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 and occupation as a Retired Merchant living in Water Lane, Stratford. Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Stratford County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 14 Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hunt 60
Martha Hunt 47
Maria Glenser 20
Samuel Glenser 20
Martha Hunt 11
Emma Summers 22

I's be grateful if someone could help locate him in 1861 as there appears to be some confusion, which may involve the Glensors who appear as step children in 1871

Thank you
Hilary

Is it only Thomas you are after on the 1861

Hi Julie

Yes please, just Thomas ............

Thank you
HIlary

Just putting this on here for the mo
1861

Maria Henson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Ben
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Henson 46
Martha Henson 38
Ben Henson 16
Maria Henson 12
John Henson 8
Martha Henson 5

I thought this family rang a bell!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1179413&px=1

still can't find him

did you get any of the birth/marriage certificates we found on your other thread about Martha etc??? Wasn't Martha born in Essex?

Hi Hilary.
I have a problem with 1861 for Stepney too. My g grandfather had a son born there in 1860 & 2 of his sisters married from the same street in ´63 & ´65 respectively. Have them in 51 & 71 but no trace of them in 61 although they had all clearly been living in the same stree for at least 5 years.
Had put it down to Ancestry mistranscription but having read your thread I´m not sure.
Marion

Hilary,
The 1861 census has lots of missing pages...
.
http://www.familyhistory.uk.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=73
Regards Vera

Hi

Thanks for all of your replies. My previous thread was about Amy Willomatt Hunt and we established in the end that she belonged to Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior and not Thomas Hunt senior who I am now trying to find in the 1861 census to confirm which family he is living with as step children have been discovered..

(Vicci - on a separate note, I actually found a birth certificate image for Martha on line and also her baptism but still none the wiser really about her as there is every indication that both senior and junior were married to Martha's too. Since they both had the same occupation it's difficult to establish which is which as ages are not disclosed (!).

I wasn't aware that there were problems with the 1861 census and in view of your comments, Marion and Vera, it appears that I am not going to find him.

Thanks for looking
Best wishes
Hilary

hi dont know if you have this

1841 census

Name George Hunt
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household ?
Occupation Juvenile
Address White Chapel Road
District Whitechapel
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place
Birth County N
in house
thomas 35 cheesemonger
eliza 35
george 12
william 8
frederick 5
eliza 3
albert 1
HO 107 / 717 / 4

Hilary.
Just checked 1861 for Stepney & it looks as though pages 8,9,10,11 are the missing ones.
No help I know, but just thought I would let you know.
Marion

Hi

Thanks for trying to help Polly, I do actually have the 1841 census details......... it really is 1861 census that holds the key to a few mysteries.

Marion - thanks for that at least I now know not to bother looking any further. I actually travelled to the East End and visited Stepney for the first time in person yesterday looking for my ancestors properties and a grave which I photographed. I had such an interesting time that I am planning to go back so if you are not local and would like a photo of a property in Stepney please do drop me a message and I will try and find it for you.

Best wishes
Hilary

Is this him entered as Glanser, or was her first husband also named Thomas?


1861 England Census
about Thomas Glanser
Name: Thomas Glanser
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: London Aldgate, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: West Ham All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Glanser 49.......Retired Grocer
Martha Glanser 39....Stepney
Anne Glanser 15....Daughter....Shoreditch
Maria Glanser 12....Daughter...Shoreditch
Thomas Glanser 8....Son...Bethnal Green
Martha Glanser 1....Daughter...Bethnal Green
Samuel Glanser 10....Son...Shoreditch

Thanks Christina

My Thomas Hunt was born in Stepney, Middlesex about 1806 which is verified by 1851 census where he is shown with his first wife Eliza. So, it could well be that the Thomas Glensor ( born 1811 in Aldgate) you have found is indeed the first husband of Martha.

I have fortunately just come into contact with someone who may have some more information on the Glensors so fingers crossed I may be able to unravel a bit more with their help and will also use the information you have provided too.

Thanks once again.

Hilary

1861
Thomas William Hunt
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Windsor, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: West Ham All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas William Hunt 30 grocer
Martha Hunt 31 Biston, Hertfordshire, England
Lallagie Hunt 5 Stratford, Essex, England

Hi Hilary.
Thanks for the generous offer. My lot were mostly Customs Officers so a photo or postcard showing the Custom House would be wonderful. They lived at 15&17 John Street,Mile End Old Town. Don´t know if the street still exists.Probably didn´t survive the blitz.
I live in Spain,so your offer is much appreciated.
Regards. Marion

Hi

Vicci - Thank you so much for the further information, you are so helpful and I am really grateful! I actually heard about Lallargie Hunt for the first time earlier today from a new contact and I have ordered her birth certificate to find out which Martha her mother is since she appears to be the daughter of Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior born 1827 ....... and the grand daughter of my Thomas Hunt senior born 1806. I also heard from my new contact that this Thomas Hunt situation is a complete can of worms and very confusing for even the most experienced genealogist (of which I am not) ....... there is another Thomas Willomatt Hunt born 1856 (third generation and I have ordered his birth certificate too) who also goes under the surname of Glensor and later emigrated to New Zealand. I dare to think who the father of Thomas Hunt 1806 was...... probably another Thomas Hunt, so I'm not even going to go there at the moment...... oh my poor head!

Marion - I have sent you a message about Customs House and the address you are interested in....

Very Best wishes
Hilary