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Gosh look at the time. Got to go pick up from football. Thanks again for all your help.

Alison

Wow Choccy. I think you have had a breakthrough. All the dates fit for Mary Ann Chapman and William's wife. That's great thank you.

Mary Ann Chapman is living in Thorpe Malsor in 1861 -

1861 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Chapman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Geddington, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Thorpe Malsor
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Rothwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
George Edward Mannsell 40
Theodoria Mary Mannsell 46
Cecil Henry Mannsell 14
William Alderman
Anne Clarke 22
****************Mary Ann Chapman 22




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 957; Folio: 40; Page: 4; GSU roll: 542727.

Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%)
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Chapman Mary Ann Kettering 3b 242a


(the missing 'male' is William 'Andrew')


Marriages Sep 1863 (>99%)
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Andrew William Kettering 3b *



Think this is possibly the marriage.

Thanks all of you for your help. If I had the time I would send off for the certificates but it's my Godmother's birthday next week. I guess I should have started this earlier but it's only when you try and think of something to buy a 90 year old that you start to think outside the box.

Thanks again for all your help it is really appreciate. Without selfless people such as yourselves a lot of people would not be able to find out as much as they do about their ancestors.

Thanks again

Alison

Could he have been Frederick William?
1861 census
56 East St., St. Andrew, Northampton
Fred'k W. Andrews, head, 27, shoemaker
Mary A., wife, 24, shoe closer
Lizzie, dau, 4
All born Northampton.

I think your best bet is to get a birth certificate from www.gro.gov.uk

Choccy has given you the details for oneof the children. This will then give the mothers maiden name and then you can go back further on the right track

in 1861 the only William Andrews born in Thorpe Malsor I can find is this one -

1861 England Census
Name: William Andrews
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Thorp Malsor, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Kettering
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Kettering
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
John Craddock 57
Hannah Craddock 58
Ann Craddock 24
Ellen Craddock 16
Fanny Craddock 14
***************William Andrews 38
Agnes Spence 3




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 956; Folio: 102; Page: 33; GSU roll: 542727.

If it is the same one 'married' to Mary Ann, he has 'lost' 10 years by 1871!

When I searched for the marriage between William and Mary I searched for William Andrews and spouse Mary in Northamptonshire. The only match which came up was QJune 1853 William Andrews and Mary Over. So I have assumed that Mary's maiden name was Over.

birth certificate would help -

Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
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Andrews Amelia Fanny Kettering 3b 173

Alison,
Can I ask how you know Mary Ann's maiden name please :-)

Sorry Julia I haven't.

1871 census
West St., Geddington, Northamptonshire
William Andrews, head, 37, shoemaker
Mary Ann, wife, 32
Amelia Fanny, dau, 6
Elizabeth, dau, 7
Eva, dau, 4
Louisa, dau, 3
Ada Mary, dau, 1
All born Geddington except William born Thorpe Malsor.

Do you have one of the childrens birth certificates???

Jim,

It looks that way. The only marriage i can find in Northants between a William Andrews and Mary was QJune 1853. Although their first child was not born until 1864 so maybe the marriage should have been QJune 1863 which would be more sense, but has been recorded wrong. I looked it up on BMD.

Alison

Thats thrown me too Jim!!

1871 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Andrews
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Geddington, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Geddington
Town: Geddington
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Corby
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
William Andrews 37
Mary Ann Andrews 32
Amelia Fanny Andrews 6
Elizabeth Andrews 7
Eva Andrews 4
Louisa Andrews 3
Ada Mary Andrews 1




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1506; Folio: 83; Page: 12; GSU roll: 829770.

Are you saying that she married when she was about 14?

Hi Julia,

This is the right family. I am now trying to go one step back and find William and Mary's parents.

I'm doing this for my Godmother's 90th birthday present so any help really is greatfully appreciated.

Alison

1881 England Census
about John H. Andrews
Name: John H. Andrews
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Geddington, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Geddington
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address: West Street

Registration district: Kettering
Sub-registration district: Corby
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Andrews 47 Born Thorpe Malsor 1834 Shoemaker
Mary A. Andrews 42 Born Geddington 1839
Ada M. Andrews 11
Charles W. Andrews 9
Bazil A. Andrews 8
Elizabeth I. Andrews 5
John H. Andrews 1

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1579; Folio: 89; Page: 15; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341379

Children all born Geddington, Northamptonshire