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hi netty thank you for that i do understand what you are saying i will not put any thing on my tree until i am sure it is correct have to wait until i get cert. msc

msc, not sure if this will help but, when searching on the 1911 census, the District/County that are shown in the search results that come up are where the people are living, not, where the people were born. The children, Annie, James & Thomas were living in Dartford at the time of the 1911 census, it doesn't state that they were born there, but, they may have been, as no birthplace is given for them on the image, if you understand what i mean !. I'm going now before i confuse you any further lol.

thank you everybody you have all given me a lot to think about. thank you very much. msc

This is the information off the 1901 image found above by Quinsgran.

Name: Jack Coxall
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: Royston, Essex, England

Civil parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: The Col? Manor

Occupation: General Labourer

Condition as to marriage: Married

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead East
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age

Jack Coxall 25
Clara Coxall 25 Wife. Born Hammersmith, London.
Hector Coxall 1 Son. Born Hammersmith, London.
Ben Saunters 20 < Brother-in-law. Painter & decorater.
Born Hammersmith, London.
Surname SAUNDERS on image.

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 574; Folio: 76; Page: 28.

1911 census.
John William Coxall 32 Roystone occ gen lab.
Laura Elizabeth wife married 10 years 32 Hammersmith occ laundry maid
Hector John W Coxall son 10 ( no birth place)
Annie Coxall dau 6 no birth place.
James son 3 no birth place
Thomas son 1 no birth place.
address 7 Station Rd Abbey Wood Dartford

John William Coxall married Laura Elizabeth Sanders 1900 sept qt Fulham gro ref 1a 575.

There is a birth for.
Hector John T Coxall 1900 june qt Fulham gro ref 1a 229


From 1901 censusonline.com
Jack Coxall 1876 Royston Essex occ gen lab.
Clara Coxall 1876 Hammersmith.
Hector Coxall 1900 Hammersmith

living Plumstead.
I cant view the image.
Can someone look on Ancestry

Seeing as they are in Woolwich in 1901 there's also this:

Births Dec 1901
Coxall Nora Elizabeth Woolwich 1d 1299

But she died.

Rose

There's certainly room for Laura between Hector and Annie. I wonder where she is?

She gets married in Dartford later so she didn't die.

Other siblings:

Births Mar 1912
Coxall Lydia F Saunders Dartford 2a 1198

Births Mar 1914
COXALL Charles B Saunders Dartford 2a 1162

Births Sep 1918
Coxall Frank A G Saunders Dartford 2a 932

Births Sep 1921
Coxall George F Saunders Dartford 2a 1150

Rose

hi rose what i ment to say it does not say where on the 1911 house hold transcript but if i enter his name seperately it says dartford 1908. i have not seen that one i will have to see what i can find out. msc

There aren't too many Coxalls born Dartford so I agree that Jim must be the one.

Have you seen this?

Births Dec 1902
Coxall Laura Winifred Dartford 2a 546

I'm sure it must be another sibling as she has the same name as her mother. However, I don't see her in 1911.

Rose

hi rose it does not say but when i put his name only it says dartford 1908 if this makes sense. msc

MSC,

Where does it say he is born on the 1911 census?

Rose

hi birdsinanest thank you. msc

I hope the birth certificate turns out to be the right one.

It does seem to be the only possible one.

hi birdinanest thank you for your reply i have only just started on this side of the family i have not got as far as looking for marriages . msc

I really doubt that James would be mistranscribed as 'Jim' but it is possible that is what his parents named him when they registered his birth. Perhaps later on they decided to be more formal for the census and recorded him as James. If you have followed his life through forwards, if I am making sense, was he Jim or James on his marriage certificate, for example?

hi thank you for your reply,s the reason i asked for the look up was so i can get the the birth ref to send for the cert i did pay for the transcript and he is on it . i have looked for the ref,s on free bmd also on ancestry they do not appear on either of the i think it must have been mistranscribed as jim i will have to send for that cert to see if it is the right one . msc

In the message above mine, msc says 'I did pay to see the transcript'.

That's why I am a bit confused. It don't take much, though :-)

I'm a bit puzzled. If you paid for the 1911 transcript and saw the siblings' birth place can you not see James' also?

hi all idid see jim coxall dartford on free bmd wonder if it,s been mistranscribed, i did pay to transcribe and got the family his sister annie and brother thomas where born in dartford thats why i thought he was born in dartford will try the advanced and see what happens. msc

Im assuming you have found him on the 1911 census but havnt paid to see the transcript.

You could try using advanced search for him and putting Dartford as place of birth and see if the same one comes up. You can also use advanced search using occupation if you know from the 1901 census his fathers occupation
I did this for a member and the outcome was she at last found out what happened to her grandfather who disappeared after WW1.
From another source learnt he went to Australia leaving her grandmother and mother.