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Louisa Alderman c1860 from N. Marston,Bucks

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Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Sep 2009 14:12

1881 England Census
about Henry Tatham
Name: Henry Tatham
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: North Marston, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: Bushey Park Bushey House Lodge
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Occupation: Sergeant Of Police

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Hampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Tatham 57
Emma Tatham 46
Henry C. Tatham 18
Marie A. Tatham 17
Alice M. Tatham 14
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 841; Folio: 80; Page: 47; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341199.

This one was a Police constable in 1851


There are two Henry Tatham's born North Marston about the same time.





1881 England Census
about Henry Tattam
Name: Henry Tattam
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: N Marston, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: North Marston
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: North Marston
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Butcher

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Tattam 58
Louisa Tattam 56
William Tattam 17
Joseph Tattam 13
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1477; Folio: 109; Page: 3; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341358.

In 1861, this one is a Farmer

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Sep 2009 14:07

Births Jun 1860
PRICE Louisa Winslow 3a 445

June

June Report 20 Sep 2009 13:13

Well thank you all for all your detective work!! Now I will make it even stranger for you....on the marriage cert for William Timpson and Louisa Price (which I had already sent for) I have the fathers name for Louisa reading Henry Tatham...cattle dealer.....so he must have been the man who got Mary into the family way!!So Mary married a Levi Alderman and gave Louisa the name of Alderman just for appearances sake, but when she got married she had to put down the name on her birth cert. She is down as being 20 on 31-10-1879 her marriage day and William Timpson is 26 and a Milk Carrier which ,if my memory serves me right I saw on some other census/document .Well back to the searching for his and hers birth certs now...thanks once again for the help.
June

Mary

Mary Report 19 Sep 2009 20:07

Looks like it Astra.


Maryb.

Astra

Astra Report 19 Sep 2009 20:01

So the original marriage posted earlier Louisa Price to William Timpson is the correct one after all that!

Mary

Mary Report 19 Sep 2009 19:56

Trees on Ancestry for levi but they are private.
Two on Rootsweb.com.One with Levi's family going back to 1612 another has Levi married to mary ann Pitkin in 1861 they have son william 15th March 1863 Mary Ann Pitkin died 1863 he then married Mary Price 27th April 1863 which would have been only about six weeks after the death of first wife!!!!!!!!

Maryb

Mary

Mary Report 19 Sep 2009 19:38

Cracked it ,they are the same
1891 Mary and Levi Alderman,with them are William Simpson born bayswater 1880/1 and fredk simpson born @ 1887 Sutton in Surrey they are grandsons.
This is another case of transcribers getting it wrong,when you look at original it definateley says TIMPSON.

Maryb

They also have written Bayswater India instead of London.

Mary

Mary Report 19 Sep 2009 19:27

What do you think of this,On 1861 census for Louisa price age 1 she is grandaughter to John and hannah,they had Mary with age 17 @ 1844 I think she is the mother of louisa.
Mary isn't with them in 1871 but louisa still is.
1863 in Winslow A/M/J 3a page 605 a Mary Price marries Levi Aderman?
He was born 1838 in Swanbourne bucks.
1871 Mary Alderman born @ 1842 in North Marston Bucks and Levi Alderman,they are in Cleam Surrey with son william born 1863.

I think this is your louisa and the reason you couldn't find the correct marriage.

Maryb

Mary

Mary Report 19 Sep 2009 18:59

Well if the 1881 census is correct and it looks as though it is.W V son 7 months born Battersea midlesex.
A William Bernon Timpson reg J/A/S 1880 V1a Page 75 in kensington london.
I think this is Vernon middle name.
William Vernon Timpson born @ 1881 died in Epsom Surrey (Same Area) in 1900.V2a Page 15
So they should have got married 1880 at least.

Maryb

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 19 Sep 2009 18:31

nudge

June

June Report 19 Sep 2009 13:56

Have now got birth certs that confirm Louisa 's maiden was Alderman.Marriage of a william Timpson to a Louisa in 1879 was wrong....maiden name was Price.I have searched under Alderman for 1875-1885....no marriage that I can find....I cross checked with Timpson/timson and nothing...I am baffled except they need not have got married!!!!! " addresses showed up on birth certs;
1882-1884...5 Lind Rd, Bishops Place
1884-1903..50 Warwick Rd.
Now the Lind Rd one showed up for William being there when he was 26 and married....but I just don't know where to go from here?????? Any ideas anyone??....please!!!

June

June Report 11 Sep 2009 19:34

I am amazed at all the replys!!!Let me go over them all over the weekend and I will post the answers....Alderman came from my Mum when she was alive, she knew her maiden name.
Many thanks
June

Astra

Astra Report 10 Sep 2009 16:18

That's the only marriage I could find too and this looks like her. Did you get the name Alderman from the children's birth certificates?

Louisa Price
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: North Marston, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: North Marston
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
John Price 43
Hannah Price 43
Mary Price 17
Amos Price 10
Marth Price 8
Louisa Price 1

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Sep 2009 16:06

I had a look and could not find the marriage, the only one i could find was to a Louisa Price

Do you have their marriage cert? that will confirm their fathers details to go with the census info,

Roy

Astra

Astra Report 10 Sep 2009 16:05

Possible for Louisa
Whitchurch is just a spit from North Marston

Louisa Alderman
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aylesbury
Sub-registration district: Waddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members:
Name Age
William Alderman 30
Emily Alderman 31
Thos Alderman 10
Elizth Alderman 9
Benjn Alderman 6
Louisa Alderman 3

or this one which is close too.

Louisa A Alderman
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Swanbourne, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Swanbourne
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
William Alderman 47
Jane Alderman 44
Elizabeth Alderman 18
Thomas Alderman 13
William Alderman 11
George Alderman 7
Louisa A Alderman 4

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 16:04

From the IGI - free on www.familysearch.org

WILLIAM TIMSON

Christening: 18 MAR 1855 North Marston, Buckingham, England


Parents:
Father: THOMAS TIMSON
Mother: ANNE

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2009 16:03

poss marriage Epsom reg disrict covers Sutton
Name: William Timpson
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 36
spouse Louisa Price

Edit: just realised you said she was Louisa Alderman cant see a marriage for that name to William Timpson/Timson

Astra

Astra Report 10 Sep 2009 16:02

William Timpson
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Winslow
County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 385

Astra

Astra Report 10 Sep 2009 15:58

1871

William Timpson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: North Marston, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: North Marston
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Timpson 53
Ann Timpson 53
William Timpson 16
Eliza Timpson 14

1861

William Timpson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: North Marston, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: North Marston
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Timpson 43
Ann Timpson 43
Elizabeth Timpson 15
Emma Timpson 9
William Timpson 6
Eliza Timpson 4

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Sep 2009 15:58

I think this could be them on the 1881?

Name: W. Timpson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: S.
Gender: Male
Where born: Merton, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Sutton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Lind Road 5 Bishop Place
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carman

Registration district: Epsom
Sub-registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W. Timpson 26
S. Timpson 21 possibly mistranscribed on the image the S looks like a L to me
W.V. Timpson

Roy