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Census lookup please

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Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 17:44

Thanks for all your effort in trying to track them down Vera. Much appeciated.

Yes hopefully they will be found in the future.

Paul

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 17:42

Paul,
I hate to be beaten...but this time I am. I also wonder what it has been transcribed under. Good Luck with the rest of your research. Maybe one day they will just pop up !!!!


Regards Vera

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 17:37

Thanks for clearing that up Vera.

I dont think i will ever know Eliza's whereabouts 1861/71 or Mary Ann in 1861.

Probably mistranscriptions.

P.S
I recall from my previous research that Josiah Mercer (bigamous 2nd husband) is also living in London in a later census. I wonder if Eliza & Josiah knew they lived not far from eachother later on in life ?

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 17:31

1871
Not sure if this is the same people as on the 1861....as his occupation now is Saddler

Thomas Collier
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Kings Norton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16a
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Collier 51
Eliza Collier 49 born Birmingham

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 17:16

Here it is....on the image it is Collier

Mary A Poulton
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmm, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Collier 41
Eliza Collier 39
Thomas Collier 21
Mary A Poulton 16


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 17:15

Paul, No, they are all Colliers, except Mary Ann.

Regards Vera

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 17:00

Do you mean son Thomas is named Collier Vera ?

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 16:58

Oh dear. What a shame.

Thanks for looking Vera.

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:57

The Eliza and Thomas with son Thomas.....the surname on the image is Collier !!! 1861



Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:55

Paul, On the image it is Poulton !!!!

Regards Vera

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 16:39

This was given to me by another researcher. Could you check to see if the Mary Ann in this record is really spelt Poulton.

Mary Ann in 1861 ?

1861 census transcription details for: 26, Town Temple Street, Birmingham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2149 Folio: 71 Page: 5

Reg. District: Birmingham Sub District: 5 St Philip
Enum. District: 4 Ecclesiastical District: St Philips
Parish: Birmingham City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 26, Town Temple Street, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
BOLTON, Thomas Head Married M 41 1820 Cigar...
...
BOLTON, Eliza Wife Married F 39 1822 Assistant
Birmingham
Warwickshire
BOLTON, Thomas Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Assistant
Birmingham
Warwickshire
POULTON, Mary A Visitor Unmarried F 16 1845 Scholar
Birmingham
Warwickshire

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 16:36

Oh dear Vera. I hope i haven't worn you out too much. Thanks so much for trying.

Perhaps Eliza went incognito after the bigamy conviction ?

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:35

I also found her with her grandparents 1851...you have just verified that.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:34

Paul,
I have been looking and looking on both census'....where o where are they !!!!!

Regards Vera

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 16:30

Hello Vera

Thanks for searching all that info.

My Eliza was formerly Eliza Bushell and married William Bolton in Yardley, Worcester in 1841. Eliza Parkes was another Eliza that married another William Bolton. I also have the further 2 marriage certs you have mentioned.

I am just missing Eliza's whereabouts in 1861 & 1871. Also Eliza & William's daughter Mary Ann Bolton on the 1861 census.

William Bolton b1820 Birmingham (Lampmaker / Gasfitter) is last seen in Birmingham in 1851. Mary Ann is with grandparents John & Susannah Bolton in 1851.

Paul

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:18

Paul,

Mary Anns marriage
Marriages Jun 1862 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BOLTON Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 305
Daley Daniel Shoreditch 1c 305
Dinniun Ellen Shoreditch 1c 305
Vince Charles Shoreditch 1c 305



Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:12

You have probably got all this....

Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Biddle George Aston 16 263
>>>>>Bolton Eliza Aston 16 263
Booth Thomas Aston 16 263
Deeman Harriet Aston 16 263
Deeman Harriett Aston 16 263
>>>>>Mercer Josiah Aston 16 263
Mullett Anne Aston 16 263
Ralph Ann Maria Aston 16 263
Rowley George Aston 16 263

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:09

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>BOLTON William Birmingham 16 457
EDWARDS Thomas Birmingham 16 457
JOHNSON Mary Anne Birmingham 16 457
>>>>>PARKES Eliza Birmingham 16 457
STIRK Sarah Birmingham 16 457
TAYLOR Charles Birmingham 16 457
TERRY Maria Birmingham 16 457
WILLIES Edward Birmingham 16 457


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 5 Sep 2009 16:06

Is this her...

Eliza Parkes Pedigree
Female Family


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 1811 Kings Norton, Worcester, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: William Bolton Family
Marriage: 08 DEC 1841 St Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England



Regards Vera

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2009 14:31

I was just thinking that maybe she remarried to John William Bolton thus keeping the same surname of Bolton.

My Eliza was definately born in Birmingham Vera.