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Moody Blue
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25 Aug 2009 20:46 |
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Sorry...........I am unable to find a marriage between William and Catherine.
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Lania
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25 Aug 2009 07:30 |
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Ok. Thank you for your help. I think i will order the marriage certificate, but what year would you say they got married?
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 21:18 |
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Deaths Jun 1891 Smailes William 61 Alnwick 10b 265
Deaths Dec 1894 Smailes Catherine 78 Morpeth 10b 229
It would seem that William Smailes did not marry anyone else except Catherine.
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 20:52 |
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Believe these parents are the husband and wife in the census above ie James and Catherine
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print MARY WALBY Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 SEP 1792 Whittingham, Northumberland, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES WALBY Family Mother: CATHARINE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P004521 1661 - 1701 0252538 Film 6905629 Film P004521 1715 - 1861 0252538, 0252594 Film NONE Sheet: 00
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print THOMAS WALBY Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 21 JUL 1794 Whittingham, Northumberland, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES WALBY Family Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P004521 1661 - 1701 0252538 Film 6905629 Film P004521 1715 - 1861 0252538, 0252594 Film NONE Sheet: 00
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 20:46 |
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1841 England Census about Thomas Walby Name: Thomas Walby Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: Whittingham Hundred: Coquetdale (North Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Rothbury Sub-registration district: Rothbury Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Walby 81 Catharine Walby 85 Thomas Walby 40 Catherine Walby 30 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 832; Book: 19; Civil Parish: Whittingham; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 20; Folio: 9; Page: 9; Line: 10; GSU roll: 438892.
on the original census the very next entries are :- Catherine Straffin age 25 William straffin age 6 months
1841 England Census about Catherine Straffin Name: Catherine Straffin Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: Whittingham Hundred: Coquetdale (North Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Rothbury Sub-registration district: Rothbury Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Catherine Straffin 25 Willm Straffin 6 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 832; Book: 19; Civil Parish: Whittingham; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 20; Folio: 9; Page: 9; Line: 12; GSU roll: 438892.
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 20:06 |
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True, can you find Catherine's birth.
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 20:02 |
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Not neccessarily....perhaps her uncle was her mothers brother or perhaps he was her fathers sisters husband,
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 19:55 |
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If her uncles surname was Walby, then her maiden surname must of been Walby. Thats why im thinking was she married before.
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 19:51 |
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Catherines uncle's name was WALBY but her sons name was STRAFFYN OR STRAUGHAN or STRAFFIN depending how it was heard and spelled on the census so could Catherine always have been a Straughan before her marriage to William Smailes?
1841 England Census about Cathar Straughan >>>>>>>>>>>Name: Cathar Straughan Age: 25 >>>>>>>>>>>Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: All Saints Hundred: Tindale (West Division) County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Pearson 28 Elizth Pearson 26 John Pearson 2 Mary Pearson 9 Mo >>>>>>>>>>>>Cathar Straughan 25 ind Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 846; Book: 1; Civil Parish: All Saints; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 19; Folio: 20; Page: 4; Line: 1; GSU roll: 438898.
Update, the census entry above is NOT THE CORRECT CATHERINE
see 1841 census below
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 19:33 |
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Why would her children have that surname. I am getting confused?
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 19:31 |
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Not sure cause it is spelt differently. Should i cancel Isabella from my tree ?
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 19:18 |
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It does sound like it but who is John.? sorry just seen grandson
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 19:13 |
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Is this the same William & Catherine.......when he was "married " to Isabella?
1891 England Census about William Smailes Name: William Smailes Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Hebron; Morpeth, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Amble Ecclesiastical parish: Amble Town: Amble County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:73 Marks Row
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Alnwick Sub-registration district: Warkworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7b Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Smailes 61 General Labourer Catherine Smailes 75 wife Mary Bohills 73 widow, visitor Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4262; Folio 16; Page 25; GSU roll: 6099372.
Deaths Mar 1902 Bohills Mary 84 Morpeth 10b 275
1881 England Census about William Smailes Name: William Smailes Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Hebron, Northumberland, England Civil parish: East Chevington County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: North Broomhill Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Colly Horse Keeper Registration district: Morpeth Sub-registration district: Bedlington ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Smailes 51 Catherine Smailes 65 John Strengham 18 grandson Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5118; Folio: 94; Page: 4; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342236.
1871 census.....same couple.
1871 England Census about William Smails Name: William Smails Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Cathrine Gender: Male Where born: Bothal, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Hepscott Ecclesiastical parish: Morpeth Town: [Hepscott Moor and Railway Crossings] County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Morpeth Sub-registration district: Bedlington ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 37 Household Members: Name Age William Smails 41 Ag Lab Cathrine Smails 55 John Smails 14 Jane Smails 9 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5165; Folio: 8; Page: 9; GSU roll: 848483.
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 18:59 |
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Ok so was Catherine married before.? due to William Straffin
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Andrew
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24 Aug 2009 18:48 |
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Possible 1861 census
1861 England Census about Jno Smailes Name: Jno Smailes Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: Wm Mother's Name: Cath Gender: Male Where born: Northumberland, England Civil parish: Widdington County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Morpeth Sub-registration district: Bedlington ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age Wm Smailes 30 Cath Smailes 45 Wm Straffin 20 Wifes son Thos Smailes 6 Jno Smailes 4 Jno Smailes 17 Thos Walby 67 Wifes uncle Isaac Trumble 21
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Dea
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24 Aug 2009 18:48 |
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Only one wife - 2 spellings - Isabel and Isabell !
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 18:37 |
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ok which one is it, can you find out ?
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Andrew
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24 Aug 2009 18:33 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MUDD Isabel Darlington 10a 41 Mudd Isabell Darlington 10a 41 SMAILES William Darlington 10a 41
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Lania
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24 Aug 2009 18:26 |
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I dont have the dates of the marriage but i have the children from both marriages. First marriage John 1856, jane 1862 and Thomas 1860. Second marriage Annie 1883, Elsie 1892, George 1881, John 1886, Alice 1895 and Emily 1888
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Moody Blue
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24 Aug 2009 18:22 |
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When and where did he marry two times?
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