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Hi,Could someone help me with census's please.I have a Fredrick Le Page married to Rachel Ogier ,fredrick died before 1881 as the census says Rachel is remarried to James Pinchemain.I have 4 children of Fredricks .Rachel Le Page born 10/10/1856 Marguerite born 16/4/1858 Charlotte born 1859 and Frederick born 1864.I have put up the 1881 census showing the new marriage and Fredeick 1864 as stepson

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James PINCHEMAIN Head M Male 47 St Andrews, Guernsey, Channel Islands Laborer
Rachel PINCHEMAIN Wife M Female 43 Vale, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Frederick P. LE PAGE Step Son U Male 17 Vale, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
Phillip COLBACK Boarder W Male 73 St Jean, Jersey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser


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Source Information:
Dwelling Marais
Census Place St Michael in the Vale, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342352
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5627 / 108
Page Number 11

1871 address:-
Carteret (?), Parish of St Mary di Castro, Guernsey

Rachael shown as widower fisherwoman of 43 years old with nine children

I dont think she was widowed that early,I seem to recall James Pinchermain with them in 1871 as a lodger,they would still be in vale parish or st sampsons

Not sure about this at all Sablon as there are no children here..

1861 Channel Islands Census
about Frederick J Le Page
Name: Frederick J Le Page
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rachel
Gender: Male
Where born: St Peter's Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands


Civil Parish or Township: St Martin
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands


Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image


Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick J Le Page 26
Rachel Le Page 27


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hi
1891 census

Name Frederick Lepage
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation GROCER
Address Les Polites Miller
District Guernsey and Adjacent Islands, Guernsey and Adjacent Islands
Parish
Administrative County Channel
Birth Place Vale
Birth County GUERNSEY
in house
frederick head 27
eliza wife 25
linda 4
RG 12 / 4704

hi Ginny.i'm not sure on that one too Rachel 1856 and marguerite 1858 were born in st sampsons so i would think that the 1861 census would be in that parish

hi Polly poppet,sorry thanks for that it will help but it is the Father i am trying to trace he died between 1871-1881 and Rachel remarriedto James just before the 1881 census,i want to go backward thanks anyway for trying

Morning Sablon

This might be them in 1861 minus Frederick

Name: Rachel Le Page
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Female
Where born: St Sampson, Guernsey, Channel Islands


Civil Parish or Township: Vale
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands


Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image


Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachel Le Page 24
Rachel Le Page 4
Margaret A Le Page 2
Charlotte Le Page 1

Pam

hi Jersey lily Yes that is the family, what a shame Fredricks not there.It is him i am having the problem with,and i am not sure if they were married in 1851

Could this be him away on the 1861 census - fits with Pams missing Fred?

1861 England Census
about Fredrick Le Page
Name: Fredrick Le Page
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Cath Parrish, Guernsey, Channel Islands

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub-registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Providence (4)
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Henry Langlois 37
Fredrick Le Page 27
Robert Salter 21
John Hamon 37
James Thompson 23
John Radley 29


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im sure he was still alive in 1871 could we look for that one please

yes that is possible Ginney he could have been a merchant seaman

I had wondered if he was a sailor.

He's not with them in 1871 either, but as you remembered James Pinchemain is. Transcribed as Lepage.

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5766; Folio: 131; Page: 23; GSU roll: 895836.

yes jerseyliy ,oh well,never mind,I think i will have to take another trip to the archives ,see if i can find his death and marriage,looks like thats the only way i will find out about him.Marguerites son was in the merchant navy also,so it looks like it was in the family,thanks everyone for your help

Hi
I have now been to the Archives and Frederick was Born 12/5/1834 catel Guernsey son of Pierre Le Page and Elizabeth Le Ray he was married 1856 could someone find him on the 1851 census please with his parents he was born castel parish but living in st sampsons at time of marriage ,so it could be in either parish in 1851 ,i also found him on board a ship >Lavinia< in 1854 age 20 years so he was a Sailor all his life,so he maynot be with his parents in 1851 He has a sister Marguerite Elizabeth born 1837 the youngest child that i have found,this could help with the census if he is not there.thankyou so much for help Fredirick has been hard to pin down

Peter - Peirre?

1851 Channel Islands Census
about Frederick Lepage
Name: Frederick Lepage
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Guernsey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish or Township: St Sampson
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Guernsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Lepage 50 .....Stone merchant
Elizabeth Lepage 47
Mary Lepage 24 Married, ships masters wife
Judith Lepage 22
Charlotte Lepage 20
Frederick Lepage 16
Margaret Lepage 14


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1841 Channel Islands Census
about Frederic Le Page
Name: Frederic Le Page
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Guernsey, Channel Islands

Civil parish: The Câtel
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Guernsey
Sub-registration district: Guernsey
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pierre Le Page 35
Elizth Le Page 35
Frederic Le Page 7
Marie Le Page 14
Judith Le Page 12
Charlotte Le Page 10
Margueritte Le Page 3


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oh Ginny your a gem well done so gratefull, Can i be a pain and ask you to locate Rachel Ogier his wife she was born c 1838 in the vale parish the daughter of Thomas Ogier thanks so much

1851 Channel Islands Census
about Rachel Ogier
Name: Rachel Ogier
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas H
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Female
Where born: Vale, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish or Township: Vale
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Guernsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas H Ogier 45
Rachel Ogier 35
Rachel Ogier 14
Patty Ogier 11
Julia Ogier 8
Judith Ogier 6
Charlotte M Ogier 2
Mary M Ogier 6 Mo


Different mothers name?

hi Ginny not sure of that one says st martins the 1881 census says she was born vale and she married that area,St Martins is at the other ens of island a bit far i think