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poss birth?

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Banks Isaac Martin Prescot 8b 680

Cassy
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or this

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
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BANKS Isaac Prescot 8b 737

Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Leadbetter Robert 76 Prescot 8b 441


cassy

He only aged 2 yrs in 10 yrs!

I think you've confused JaneyCanuck! I was a bit too until the address matched up in 1901.

poss 1871

Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Speke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Hale
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Leadbetter 59 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lab
Esther Leadbetter 58
William Leadbetter 34 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Son,umarr,lab
Margaret Leadbetter 28 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dau, umarr,dressmaker
James Leadbetter 19 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Son,unmarr,lab
Elizabeth Hughes 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grandau



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3854; Folio: 68; Page: 9; GSU roll: 841931.

1881

Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Speke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 3 Cott
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Platelayer Railway

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Hale
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Leadbetter 69
Ester Leadbetter 62
James Leadbetter 29
Harriet Ellen Leadbetter 30




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3720; Folio: 53; Page: 9; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341891.





Cassy

oh my lord apologies. to everyone james was a copper works foreman and isaac worked for him. i am so sorry for confusing people. we are really trying to find out what happened to isaac from birth....who his natural parents were. its just that in later life he lost both his legs in an accident and doesnt seem to have had much of a beginning either. ...apologies again. marie

1881 - how about this one - I bet "Sport" is "Speke" sure there ainlt any such place as Sport

James LEADBETTER Head M Male 27 Sport, Lancashire, England Bricklayers Labr
Mary LEADBETTER Wife M Female 28 Sport, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth LEADBETTER Daur Female 7 Sport, Lancashire, England Scholar
Thomas LEADBETTER Son Male 3 Sport, Lancashire, England
James LEADBETTER Son Male 6 m Sport, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 159 Milton St
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341898
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3752 / 126
Page Number 11

cassy your fabulous. it is him. the reason i know is that isaac m banks ismy husbands grandad who was adopted by james. we dont know why and hubby didnt know grandad even was adopted so this is absolute gold for me.

I'm confused.

You said that you had him in 1901, and that he was a labourer, and that you couldn't find his wife ...

This isn't him in 1901?


Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Halewood

James Leadbetter 49
Harriet Leadbetter 54
Isaac M Banks 10 - stepson to this James


Nope ... that one's a copper works foreman.

He's the only one showing as born in Speke.

cassy. the second one looks spot on and i am amazed....i guess ive a long way to go before i am that good. many many thanks marie.

poss marriage??

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
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LEADBETTER James Prescott 8b 1009
STANBRA Harriet Ellen Prescott 8b 1009


Cassy

1891

Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Garston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3 Arthur Pl

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Leadbetter 39 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>railway labourer
Harriet Leadbetter 41
Isaac Banks 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stepson
Esther Leadbetter 80 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mother, widow



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3004; Folio 24; Page 6; GSU roll: 6098114.

1901

Is this the 1901 you have??

Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Halewood
Ecclesiastical parish: Hale St Mary
Town: Halewood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Hale
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
James Leadbetter 49 >>>>>>>>>>>Copper works foreman
Harriet Leadbetter 54 >>>>>>>>>>>Born Fenny Compton, Warwickshire
Isaac M Banks 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Adopted son copper works weightman born Woolton, Lancs



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3508; Folio: 58; Page: 23.


Cassy

More info Marie!

You have him in early censuses - who were his parents? siblings? Or just copy the 1871 census here, is easiest and best.

Where was he in 1901?

thanks cassy but given what i have found on his death record. the date of birth is pretty accurate. and he was a labourer. married, but cant track down the wifes name or date of marriage yet. but so grateful for your help

poss

Name: James Leadbetter
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Speke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 55 Cottage
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Hale
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Leadbetter 60
Alice Leadbetter 58
Elizabeth Leadbetter 38
James Leadbetter 29
Jane Leadbetter 8
Alice Barber 6




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3720; Folio: 49; Page: 2; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341891.

Cassy

Any Good age is out a bit though??

Name: James Leadbeater
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Speke, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 40 Dorset Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Coal Heaver

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Rural)
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Leadbeater 44
Eliza Leadbeater 44
James Leadbeater 25
Elizabeth Leadbeater 18
Isaac Leadbeater 16
John Leadbeater 9




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3712; Folio: 99; Page: 41; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341889.

When was he married??

Cassy

hi janey and many thanks. he was born 1852 0r 53 in speke lancashire. labourer. and in the early census living in speke, but in the 1901 living at 17 mersey view road halewood lancashire. married but cant find wife.this is all fascinating but it needs some studying doesnt it? best regards marie

I'm betting he was born between 51 and 61 ... and in 61, there's only about a dozen of them. ;)

Do post those details, Marie! This is a chance to learn some tricks. ;)

He could be misspelled "Ledbetter", his given name could be "Jas" ... or "Jane" ...

Also, if he had an occupation in one of the censuses, let us know what it is -- the 1881 can be searched by occupation.

twenty-four James Leadbetter's on the 1881 census on the free Mormon LDS site - where was he born and when?

His name may have been misspelt in other census records. If you want to post the details, name and place/ date of birth along with the census details you have, then we can try to find misssing records.

Andy