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can anybody help please

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 17:03

O hhhhhhhhhh,humbugs Choccy.

Down to the marriage cert for sure then.

If you get it and need more help on it please come back to this thread Gloria and dont start a new one as there is lots of info on here to help other "helpers"
viv

Edit,,,is she on later census Choccy??
Stupid question,I just realised the death date.!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:59

Alberts marriage ref ,with middle initial F.

Marriages Dec 1922 (>99%)
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Humby Janet Sharples W. Ham 4a 698
SHARPLES Albert F Humby W. Ham 4a 698


The marriage cert will tell you if he knows who his father is, and also his fathers occupation,then maybe you will be able to find his father on census.

Certs cost £7 from here

www.gro.gov.uk

Remember to tick the "yes"box that asks if you know the GRO refs,and never pay more than £7.
There are a lot of sites that will ask for far more and are rip off merchants.
viv

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Aug 2009 16:58

don't want to rain on your parade, but .... !

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Mary Ohlson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 13
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:51

Births Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Ohlson Elizabeth Mary E. London 1c 16


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I cant find a Ohlson/ Sharp* marriage ,but of course she may never have married in law and just used the childrens fathers names??

No sightings of her with a husband anywhere.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:30

And what we have here looks like her maybe????

71 England Census
about Elizabeth M Ohlson
Name: Elizabeth M Ohlson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Algate, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Ohlson 36
Mary Ohlson 38
Elizabeth M Ohlson 12
James Ohlson 8
Andrew Ohlson 5
Rhoda Ohlson 3
Ernest Ohlson 7 months



Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 2 Aug 2009 16:29

There are heaps of marriages for Sharpl* on FreeBMD - but not too many in London. And the London ones seem to be Sharplin/Sharpling etc.

Found this:

Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
Easson David Bethnal Green 1c 671 Scan available - click to view
Graham Jane Bethnal Green 1c 671 Scan available - click to view
Sadler Mary Ann Bethnal Green 1c 671 Scan available - click to view
Sharpless James Alfred Bethnal Green 1c 671 Scan available - click to view


Absolutely no guarantee it's the right one - might be worth looking for Mary Sadler in earlier censuses to see if age and place of birth match. If they do you might be able to find the couple in the 1881. BUT it is a longshot.

Jill

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:26

Ping,light bulbs go on maybe.

Henry Ohlson sharpless

Henry alson??

As on 1891?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:23

more possibles



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Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Sharpless Frederick Albert Mile End 1c 477
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Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Sharpless Henry Ohlson Mile End 1c 509

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 16:05

I got Arthur I do believe,but may be take your pick??


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Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Sharpless Arthur Bethnal Green 1c 161
Sharpless Arthur Bethnal Green 1c 259

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 15:54

Blimey,Ive bin searchin all this time an gettin nowhere.
Thanks for coming in Choccy.

I was wondering about a 2nd marriage ,no arthur on Alson1891?

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Aug 2009 15:45

is this the family in 1891 with a different surname! Elizabeth is a Tailoress.

1891 England Census 1891 England Census
Name: Frederick Alson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Alson 29
Andrew Alson 8
Henry Alson 6
Frederick Alson 5


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 302; Folio 36; Page 13; GSU roll: 6095412.

or am I clutching at straws!!!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 15:29

1911
HOUSEHOLD SHARPLES ALBERT M 1887 24 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD SHARPLES ANDREW SAMUEL M 1884 27 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD SHARPLES MARY EZB F 1865 46 Stepney London


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1901

1901 England Census
about Frederick A Sharpless
Name: Frederick A Sharpless
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George in the East
Sub-registration district: St George North
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Sharpless 37 <<<tailoress{married}
Andrew L Sharpless 19 <<<Andrew samuel?on image the initial is an S
Henry Sharpless 16
Frederick A Sharpless 14
Arthur Sharpless 18

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address
48 sutton street


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 2 Aug 2009 15:11

poss??

Name: Frederick Albert Sharpless
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Mile End Old Town
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 477

Anthony

Anthony Report 2 Aug 2009 14:56

re last message albert and elizabeth the suname is sharples mary was born approx 1862-1866 albert aprrox 1886-1890 he married janet humby in 1922 in west ham gloria

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 1 Aug 2009 17:29

WELL FOR A START A SURNAME WUD HELP

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 1 Aug 2009 17:28

Have you got their surname please ?

Anthony

Anthony Report 1 Aug 2009 17:27

on the 1911 census i have found my grandfather albert age 24 born mile end london his mother mary elizabeth widow was married 29 years.Both of them born in mile end do not show on previous census.can anybody help with birth details or maiden name of great grandmother thanks. gloria.