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Sablon Thank you for that, the spelling is obviously different re Beeteley, but we have mostly come to this conclusion that its as near as we can get,.thanks ....... Caz

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GLADYS F 1902 9 years Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ALBERT M 1868 43 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ALBERT M 1897 14 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANN F 1840 71 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANN F 1866 45 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANN F 1825 86 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANNIE F 1882 29 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANNIE F 1910 1 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANNIE F 1895 16 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ANNIE ELIZABETH F 1877 34 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ARTHUR M 1896 15 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY BEATRICE A F 1895 16 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY DORIS F 1905 6 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY EDITH ANNIE F 1901 10 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY EDWARD M 1895 16 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZA ALICE F 1883 28 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH F 1876 35 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH F 1886 25 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH F 1880 31 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH F 1864 47 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH F 1858 53 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELIZABETH MARY F 1872 39 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ELLEN F 1880 31 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY EMILY F 1870 41 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ERNEST M 1908 3 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ERNEST M 1887 24 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY ETHEL F 1904 7 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY FRANK M 1867 44 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY FRANK M 1910 1 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GEORGE M 1869 42 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GEORGE M 1831 80 Nantwich Cheshire
INSTITUTION BETTELEY GEORGE M 1905 6 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GEORGE WILLAM M 1892 19 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GERTRUDE F 1893 18 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GERTRUDE ELIZABETH F 1891 20 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY GLADYS F 1902 9 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY HARRIETT ANNIE F 1888 23 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY HARRY M 1897 14 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY HARRY M 1867 44 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY HERBERT M 1890 21 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY HILDA F 1907 4 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY JAMES M 1847 64 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY JOHN M 1875 36 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY JOHN M 1855 56 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY JOHN THOMAS M 1880 31 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY JOHN WILLIAM M 1905 6 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY LEONARD M 1897 14 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY LILLY F 1882 29 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARTHA F 1866 45 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARTHA ANN F 1901 10 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARY F 1863 48 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARY F 1874 37 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARY F 1903 8 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY MARY ELIZABETH F 1908 3 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY OLIVE MARJORIE F 1892 19 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY PERCY M 1893 18 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY PRUDENCE SARAH F 1903 8 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY RICHARD M 1847 64 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY RICHARD M 1901 10 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY RICHARD M 1866 45 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY RICHARD M 1899 12 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY SARAH F 1848 63 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY THOMAS PENNELL M 1880 31 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY THOMAS WILLIAM M 1889 22 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY TOM M 1864 47 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY TOM M 1894 17 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY WILFRED M 1909 2 Nantwich Cheshire

HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY WILLIAM M 1866 45 Macclesfield Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY WILLIAM M 1882 29 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY WILLIAM M 1877 34 Nantwich Cheshire
HOUSEHOLD BETTELEY WILLIAM JOHN M 1897 14 Nantwich Cheshire



all from 1911 census

what about this birth

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Betteley Gladys Birmingham 6d 162


The district Birmingham is in the county of Warwickshire

Dea ,
yes i can see where you are at here, & its all so strange, even so
thank you for the info on Gladys Beatley.. if i was the registrar & had this name to write Id ask the person is that with an E +A / saying the name Beatley it seems so obvious, but did she change her name ? was she Illiterate? & did they ever really marry.... i think not as she is simply nowhere at all, i wish i knew if the were any bros/sis to stuart Leslie {my dad,} That would put a light on so many questions,. So far you girls have all been doing a wonderful job for my search, and i thank you all for this...
..X caz.

Hi all you little sherlocks!, Ok before i give you my reply let me thank you all for finding all this information, as you know im out here in Australia & the time diff at present is +9 hrs to Uk, so i do get around to replying even though a little late, now i am getting so excited at how you are all coming up with so many details, {i am such a novice at all this} Sablon well done yet the name beeteley has only 3 'E's"! could be a close match ,did you find it on Ancestry? i go round in circles on there at times, thank you for that i will take a look,..
Dea,. Yes Dea, The occupation given for Stwt, Edwd,. is noted here as an Art Designer.......living At 129 Kennington Park Rd, Southwark UD..
Also the birth found by Rose seems to be 99.9% clear as you only need to take a look at his father William H Occupation.... Photographic Artist..picture framer,. my father was a designer print consultant, {both my daughters have inherited this art and design ability, which i knew dad had}, Also it seems Stwt Edwd was also in this line of occupation to good to ignore this has got to be the right one, the old adage' like my father before me, All in the same line of Business., love all this name changing lark its crazy as my father often changed his names around mostly known as les,.also he was bigamously married to 3 other women, & got caught, But thats another story to chase at a later date
you girls sure work hard here, thanks for all youve been doing for me, its appreciated so much. x...... Caz

There is a 'possible' here for Gladys but I still cannot find her marrying a Warwick (maybe they never married?

There are a couple of possible marriages for her to other people so I am not convinced she is the
correct one but I will post what I have for info:

Births Sep 1894
Beatley Gladys Elizabeth Mutford 4a 926


1911
HOUSEHOLD BEATLEY GLADYS ELIZEBITH F 1895 16 Mutford Suffolk
HOUSEHOLD BEATLEY ELIZABETH F 1863 48 Mutford Suffolk
HOUSEHOLD BEATLEY ERNEST FREDERICK JOHN M 1888 23 Mutford Suffolk
HOUSEHOLD BEATLEY FREDERICK JOHN M 1861 50 Mutford Suffolk


1901 England Census
about Glayds Beatley
Name: Glayds Beatley
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frederick J
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkley, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Kirkley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkley St Peter
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England


Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Kessingland
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick J Beatley 49 Coachman
Elizabeth Beatley 38
Ernest Beatley 13
Glayds Beatley 6

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1802; Folio: 54; Page: 7.


Dea x

This is the Edward Stuart Warwick from the birth found by Rose:

1901 England Census
about Edward S Warwick
Name: Edward S Warwick
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William H
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester Christchurch
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 173 Belgrave Gate



Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
William H Warwick 50 Photographic Artist + Picture Framer
Emily Warwick 29
Edward S Warwick 2
Warwick 5 days .....son .....(later named Douglas!)

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2989; Folio: 104; Page: 11.

1911: now living in Coventry. (now calling himself 'Stewart') !!

HOUSEHOLD WARWICK STEWART M 1899 12 Coventry Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD WARWICK DOUGLAS M 1901 10 Coventry Warwickshire
HOUSEHOLD WARWICK EMILIE J F 1878 33 Coventry Warwickshire

Dea x

Is there an occupation given on cert for the father Stewart Edward?

Dea x

found 2 births

Births Mar 1842 (>99%)
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Beetley Daniel Norwich 13 253
Beetley Daniel Norwich 13 262

just lost a reply somewhere along the line,..Try Again...
Hi Girls,i was telling you thanks for the suggestions, my best bet will be the reg office thanks for that , also take a look on the surname search boards i have a post on there too , Title:Cant find this name any where..
Well Aunty Sherlock Has Investigated ,oh yes clever girl eh, she has come up with the name Beeteley one entry only... Details:
Thomas Beeteley..No Dates for BMD ..
Wife... Jone.. No Dates Either
Children:
Richard Beeteley
male
christening 19th June 1737 Highly Shropshire England;
If this is the Elusive Beeteley , Could this be Gladys's GT GT relation ??
can any one follow this ?.
You girls are real good,... Thanks, .. Caz

What about your parents' marriage cert? Any clues or witnesses on there?

Rose

From looking at this http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/west%20ham.html

It appears the registers are now at Newham.

The Register Office, 207 Plashet Grove, East Ham, London, E6 1BT.
Tel: 020 8430 3616 or 3617. Fax: 020 8430 3127.
E-mail: [email protected]

Rose

Marilyn,

Betteley is a valid surname.

Caz, I wonder if you contact the local register office if they have the correct spelling in their books?

Rose

Hi Sylvia,
I have the birth cert here & as sure as ever the name is Beeteley...! i feel that the registrar has spelled the name wrong.. or Gladys has not given them her correct name, as back then it seemed they could change their christian names around,......Thanks Sylvia
Caz , In Australia!

It is very clearly Beeteley on the image of the birth registration ... very clearly typed as such!!


I sugges that you order that birth certificate and see what the actual handwriting on the certificate says.


I can find no marriage of a Warwick to a Gladys between 1910 and 1935



sylvia

Thanks Rose, Yes he changed from Stewart to Stuart The thing that seems so strange is that i cant find anything on his mother, I dont know where the name Beeteley Originated from, or if the registrar spelled it wrong ? i have tried altering the letters around ommitting an E & adding an A ! Still no joy!.
Yes i have the same Edward Bookmarked thats about the only one close enough to my estimated DOB 1896/9,
Dont know if the were any bro/sis to Stuart either. thank you for replying
Caz

Rose'
I don't think the name Betteley exist.in any records !

Wonder if Gladys' name is Betteley?

Rose

Well done Rose !!!

Clever girl...I have been looking & looking ..

I see your dad's name changed from Stewart to Stuart.


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Stewart L Warwick
Name: Stewart L Warwick
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beeteley
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1925
Registration district: W Ham
Registration county: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 174


England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Stuart Leslie Warwick
Name: Stuart Leslie Warwick
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1925
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1987
Age at death (estimated): 62
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1068

Not seeing anything for his father. Perhaps this could be his birth?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edward Stuart Warwick
Name: Edward Stuart Warwick
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 225

Rose