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Meant to add that Alice Griffiths is listed as a Hospital Nurse in the 1901 census.

Here is the 1881 census with Annie Elizabeth listed as Anne E (without the letter I in her first christian name). I have sent a correction to Ancestry to list the correct spelling as registered at birth to help future researchers. Her parents are Albert and Ann.

Small correction to a previous message from Linda. She kindly provided you the 1891 census twice with Annie aged 13 but the first time she quoted in her message that it was the 1881. It confused me at first, which isn't difficult :o) as I couldn't work out why Annie would be aged 13 in 1881.

Regards

Name: Albert Vowles
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Priston, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Priston
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Agricultural Laborer

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Newton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Vowles 35
Ann Vowles 27
Maude Vowles 5
Agness M. Vowles 4
Anne E. Vowles 3
Mabel R. Vowles 1

Thankyou so much for helping. It certainly proves the old saying right...Two (or three or four) minds are better than one! It's absolutely fantastic to find Annie in 1901. How did you manage it? Thanks also for the help concerning Reigo Delmattie. If anything it makes the likelihood of Reigo being called Mauro more likely if the name should have been Remigio, at least there is an M in it! Like i said it could be like our Edward being Teddy for example? It was very interesting to learn the 'Del' is a bit like our Mac or O'. I have a friend whose surname is O'conner but she sometimes omits the O'. I now think my ggrandmother did not invent the name but repeated the name to the registrar as best she could. He certainly gave her a ring(which I'm hoping she may have left as a keepsake in the foundling hospital when she handed the baby over) and had disappeared from his lodgings by the time the baby had been born. I am aware that Mauro Menti may be completely the wrong contender, but he is in the right place at the right time with the right profession. He also marries just after Winifred Delmattie is born which makes me think this was the reason he was unable to fulfil his commitments. now as for Alice Griffins, I have seen this surname on a family tree linked to the Vowles. I think Annie E Vowles grandmother Martha Silcox had a neice who married a Griffins..I need to check this out, but it could explain why she went to London. Thanks again everyone...it really, really helps to hear ideas and also to take on board advise on not becoming too excited! I still can't believe I've learnt so much so quickly from people kind enough to give up their time to help. I'm very touched. Carina x

I'm confused, Carina!

I just got your PM, which I'll copy here because it doesn't seem too personal:


Hi Janey
Thanks so much for answering my plea for help. Yes the child named Winifred Delmattie and then renamed Clara Vallance by the thomas conram foundation was my grandmother. Her mother was Annie Elizabeth Vowles. On Annie and Herbert's 1913 marriage certificate she gives her age as 39 and calls herself Elizabeth Vowles. Herbert Hunt gives his age as 29. I believe they had no children of their own.

Winifred Delmattie's father was not named on her birth certificate but her mother informed the home of the child's father being Reigo Delmattie. I can find no trace of him although he was supposed to have been in london for a number of years. I need to try to find, through Herbert's relatives, some more information on Annie Elizabeth's background, as although I think I have traced her I can't be absolutely certain if I've got the right person. Herbert hunt knew of Winifred's existance and supported his wife's repeated applications for Winifred's return.

thank you so much for showing an interest and I am very grateful for your advise and assistance
Regards Carina


This is the only thread I can find with the surname Delmattie in it, and I'm not here!

Oh ... I remember ... Annie Elizabeth Vowles ...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1168542

Probably some of the info in this thread would have helped there ... so I'm going to add what you sent me to that one.

From the new thread, for the info of anyone following this one:

I appealed for information on Herbert Hunt because on the marriage certificate Annie Elizabeth Vowles (the name the home had given me and the name on Winifred Delmattie's birth certificate )had changed to just Elizabeth Vowles and her age (39) did not correspond with the Annie Elizabeth Vowles born Priston 1877. Also, Annie's father was named as Thomas on the marriage certificate and Annie from Priston's father was Albert Vowles. I therefore thought it would be an idea to try to find anyone who might know the hunt family who could give me some information to confirm or refute that the Annie Elizabeth Vowles I assumed was Winifred's mother was correct. The home only gave me her name and her age (25) at the time of my gran's birth (1903) and I could fine only one Annie Elizabeth Vowles born at that time.


Strikes me this would have been useful here too ...