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Hi
I have a ancestry subscription, however i cannot view a record i wish to view?

It is the marriage of Thomas Jolly to Mary (surname unknown, but middle name was Jane) i believe it to be about 1871.
I believe the following is them but i cant see it...can anyone help?


Thomas Jolly Mary Jane surname date location

Did they marry Bury-Fylde or Ely. That is the 3 marriages that show to a Mary Jane around that time. Irene

?this one or try searching on free site http://freebmd.rootsweb.com where you can put wife's name in to search all Thomas/Mary
Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
Hodgson Mary Jane Bury 8c 563
JOLLY Thomas Bury 8c 563
REDFORD Ruth Bury 8c 563
Wroe Thomas Bury 8c 563

This is them on 1881 census with their daughter (my grt grt grt grandmother) Emily Jolly.

Unfortunately this is the only info i have at the moment about them, im only guessing there marriage to be around 1871 as Ellen was born about 1872?


1881 census
Name: Emily Jolly
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: March
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Grandford Road
Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Jolly 38 Head Ag. Lab - Milton Cambs
Mary Jane Jolly 29 Wife - Sutton Cambs
Ellen Jolly 9 Daug - Sutton Cambs
Emily Jolly 7 Daug - Sutton Cambs
Henry Jolly 3 Son - March Cambs

birth index a cert would give mothers maiden name so?? this one or one of the others
Births Sep 1869

Jolly Ellen district Risbridge volume 4a page407

1891 Emily?
Name: Emily Jolly
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Iste of Ely, Sutton
Civil parish: Ramsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas and Beckett
Town: Ramsey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Patrick 49
Elizabeth Patrick 63
Elizabeth A Patrick 25
George A Patrick 18
Arthur Partridge 21
Emily Jolly 17

This is a Cambridgeshire marriage, assuming this is the most likely area:

Jan

Marriages Jun 1872
Jolly Thomas Ely 3b 1017
SABBERTON Mary Jane Ely 3b 1017

possible marriage index
Marriages Jun 1872
Brooks Emily Ely 3b 1017
Jolly Thomas Ely 3b 1017 ********
SABBERTON Mary Jane Ely 3b 1017 *******
Watling Robert Ely 3b 1017

wonder if this is death index


Deaths Jun 1881
JOLLY Thomas Samford 4a 389

i believe that is her in 1891 jan, i have that one already, then in 1901 she is living with her husband and family, but its now her parents i want to know about

jan did that death have an age estimate, only he would only have been about 38, and just had a son?

here it is from Ancestry
Name: Thomas Jolly
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 39
District: Samford
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 389

1851
Name: Thomas Jolly
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Milton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Milton
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Household Members:
Name Age
James Parish 45
Mary Parish 38
Ann Jolly 16 wife's daughter
John Parish 8
Sarah Parish 5
Edward Parish 6
Elizabeth Parish 8 Mo
Thomas Jolly 8 so wonder if he is her son!

oh dear, lol
this sounds more like my family lol
they have all been married at least 3 times since about 1950's lol

hmmmm ok
dont think the ellen jolly birth previously posted is the correct one, it would appear there surnames have been spelt differently?

Births Sep 1874
JOLLEY Emily Ely 3b 544

Births Dec 1872
Jolley Ellen Ely 3b 593

Ian, did you comment on the marriage to Mary Jane Sabberton? If it turns out to be her, this is her birth i would say:

Births Mar 1838 (>99%)
SABBERTON Mary Ely 14 68

Jan

The only way to be ABSOLUTELY sure that you have the correct parents is by buying the borth certificate for one of the children.


Then buy the marriage certificate to find the names of their fathers.



There is no short cut that may not end up with you getting things very wrong.




£7 is not a lot to pay to be sure that you have the correct ancestors!!



sylvia

i have already applied for emily jolly's birth cert this morning so hoping to receive it shortly.
Thanks

Ok have received Emily's marriage certificate this morning, feels like christmas.

The marriage certificate confirms her fathers name was Thomas Jolly