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I am trying to find details of a marriage without knowing the mans christian name, is this possible.my relative is bettie brenda lloyd born in 1924 father george w lloyd, mother elizabeth a lloyd(ditchfield).bettie married and became bettie brend credland .she was born in the runcorn area(poss frodsham),and i assume was married in that area. can anyone help? once again assume marriage around 1944+
thanx; this stuff really gets you hooked!

This does not fit your time frame. The info matches somewhat however!! Having another look.


Name: Bettie B Lloyd
Spouse Surname: Credland
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1960
Registration district: Runcorn
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1075

Ralph Credland is spouse...

general query , when did the fully transcribed marriages appear on Ancestry! just found that they have...!

This is a bit strange. When I put the names and dates into the FreeBMD search it comes up blank. In Ancestry I find these matches.


Name: Ralph Credland
Spouse Surname: Lloyd
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1960
Registration district: Runcorn
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1075
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

RRose Are not the dates a bit out of the time frame. It really looks like these are the correct people.

If you click on "find spouse" for the above you get:

Bettie B Lloyd Credland Jan-Feb-Mar 1960 Runcorn Cheshire

Surely the right people!

Jan

Ennis, If you are there could you please confirm your "assume marriage around 1944" information. The searches are bring up a marriage in the 1960s.

Sorry for the deletion. Fingers have the hiccups.

To obtain any type of certificates there are several ways you can go about it. Because your certificates are in the UK the most cost effective way is to purchase them on-line from the General Register Office. The cost is 7 pounds per certificate.

The web address is http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Other sites have them available but usually more expensive.

I believe you can visit the place if you wish.

I am not certain if there are transcription agents available for UK certificate information. Perhaps someone else can answer that question. Hope this helps.

One wonders if Ralph was already marr by1944ish, and they couldn't get marr until 1st wife died.

FreeBMD doesn't go that far yet.

We have wandered into the realm of personal information about possible living people again.

Yes, the marriage record is in the GRO and findable at Ancestry.

The GRO record doesn't contain speculation about people living together while one of them is still married to someone else.

The GenesReunited management is taking a quite properly dim view of this kind of personal info being posted. It can easily be provided by PM.

possible first marriage????

Marriages Sep 1933 (93%)
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CREDLAND Ralph Rook Gainsbro 7a 2066
Rook Sybil R Credland Gainsbro' 7a 2066




sylvia

I'd thought that unlikely because of the location; you never know.

Meanwhile, Ancestry is giving me this:

"Due to the volume of records recently added to the Marriage Index we are experiencing problems with this collection. We are working to resolve the problem and expect it to be resolved within the next 24 hours. Please check back at a later time if your search does not work correctly."

*&^% right it didn't work correctly.

I'm going to wait to tomorrow to see how people respond to the suggestion that this kind of recent info not be posted publicly in the context of discussions of things like adultery and illegitimacy ...

There appears to have been a birth to that marriage btw.

Hi Janey


I agree that one should be very very careful about posting the names of people who might still be alive on a public forum such as this.


I once put my own name into google, and discovered that someone had lifted a posting I had made on Friends Reunited (the parent company of GR), and re-posted it on Bidfrenzy. Now I never went on Bidfrenzy, was not a member, and could not access the site to see what had been posted under my name




but that is the sort of thing that can very easily happen!
\\\\and it does mean that if someone enters their name in google (or a rellie's name), then they may well be led to a thread such as this here on GR


I did however think that 1933 marriage was early enough that both parties might well be dead by now!




sylvia

My point is that their children, who may be illegitimate children of an adulterous relationship (I am not expressing any judgment of that fact myself, but the fact is that many would), may not wish these facts to be broadcast, and in fact may not even know them.

Janey - I don't see how a hypothetical relationship which only makes sense if the putative wife has been dead for 60+ y concerns a living person. If Sylvie's post has any relevance, we're talking abt a 75 y old marr here, and even BC allows that to be open record.

As for any possible kids, who knows that there are any - seems we've gone into don't ask, don't tell mode there, as is appropriate.

Apparently GR agrees with me. Their rule is their rule, and they have been enforcing it. No personal info about third parties.

I see absolutely no reason to smear the intimate details of the immediate family of a person or persons who may be living all over the internet.

And I really am worn out explaining the difference between an "open record" on a site where basic details can be found by someone who knows what s/he is looking for and the presentation of those details in a DISCUSSION of the INTIMATE DETAILS of a family's relationships on a website where it can be found by any search engine by anyone looking for any of those names.

I don't know where you're getting 75 years, mgnv. We are looking at a marriage in 1960 and children who may have been born to that couple, i.e. who may well be younger than me.

The 75 years refers to the 1933q3 marr Sylvia posted, and the guy we're talking abt is probably this guy in 1911

HOUSEHOLD CREDLAND RALPH M 1904 7 Gainsborough Lincolnshire

I don't know he's dead, but it's a not unreasonable assumption, and I've no knowledge that he had any kids.