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MY GM WAS SARAH GREAVES,1901 CENSUS AS LIVING IN WHITWELL WITH FATHER JAMES,MOTHER ALICE.SIBLINGS GERTRUDEAGE 5YR,MAUDE-4YR,ADA3YR,EDWARD1YR AND SARAH 3MTHS.THEY CAME FRON SHEFFIELD.POSSIBLE CONNECTION TO NORTON.IAFTER1901 WALTER,GRACE WERE BORN AND POSSIBLY THOMAS??ALICE DIED BEFORE 1911 IM SURE.SARAH WAS THEN TAKEN CARE OF BY A LADY I KNOWN REFERRED AS "OLD GRANNY LOWE".WHO IN 1901 WAS DOWN AS BEING NEIGHBOURS OF MY FAMILY.JAMES I THINK MOVED TO WORKSOP AND REMARRIED A LADY WHO OWNED A WOOL SHOP/ON NEWCASTLE AVENUE,ALSO HE LIVED ON KING STREET WORKSOP AND WESTGATE.GRACE OR GERT WENT ON TO MARY SOMEONE WITH NAME SHEPHERD.AND THE NAMES OF GWEN AND DAUGHTER CYNTHIA I VAGULY REMEMBEWR BEING MENTIONED WEN I WAS SMALL,CYNTHIA MARRIED PETER/AND WENT ON TO HAVE CHILDREN 1 OF WHICH I KNOW WAS CALLED ALANA.THEY LIVED IN PEACEHAVEN DOWN SOUTH.SARAH MARRIED TOM/THOMAS RICHARDSON IN ABOUT1929ISH AND HAD 2 SONS STANLEY AND ALAN,ALAN BORN 5/10/36.STAN WAS COUPLE YEARS OLDER. TOM HAD BEEN MARRIED TO HIS 1ST COUSIN BEFORE HE MARRIED SARAH.HEALSO HAD STRONG CONNECTIONS WITH WORKSOP TOWN F.C.HE DIED IN 1974 AND SARAH IN 1984.NAMES CONNECTEDTO SARAH-BRUNT/SHEPERD/LOWE ALSO SOMEONE SHE KNEW WELL RAN THE UNICORN PUB IN WORKSOP.ALSO THE PARENTS OF TOM OR SARAH/DONT KNOW WHICH THOU DID OWN THE SHIP INN IN WORKSOP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.TOM HAD A BROTHER GEORGE AND HAD SON CALLED DEREK.DEREK HAD SON CALLED NIGEL.MY GODMOTHER WAS"AUNTY MARJORIE WHO LIVED IN NEW MANTON IN THJE1970/80S.TOM AND SARAHS ELDEST SON STANLEY LIVED AT EAKRING WAS MARRIED AND HAD A DAUGHTER CALLED PEARL,MAYBE MORE CHILDREN.HE MARRIED A SCOTCH LADY AND HAD 2 SONS PAUL AROUND 1968 AND GLEN 1972.THEY LIVED AROUND EDWINSTOWE AREA AND STAN AND MARGARET BOTH ARE BURIED THERE.ALAN IS STILL ALIVE AND HAD ANTHONY JOHN KNOWN AS JOHN IN 1960,MARK IN 1966 AND SONJA IN 1970/71.IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THESE FAMILYS CUD U LET ME KNOW PLZ.ALAN MARRIED MARY RUTHERFORD IN 1958/ALANS CHILDRENS MOTHER SHE WAS FROM GATESHEAD.

any chance you could do that again without the caps and some paragraphs. It is so hard to read as it is :(

I tried to paragraph this for you Sonja but it really is not easy on the eye in capitals, my brain hurts!
I feel you will get more help if you re-type & paragraph it

We're all waiting ;-
Sam

Hi Sonja

I have tried to dispher this as best as possible to see if anyone can help.

I must admit I am still confused. You had best check through and make sure you have all the correct information.



My gm was Sarah Greaves,1901 census as living in Whitwell with father James,mother Alice.siblings Gertrude age 5yr,Maude-4yr,Ada3yr, Edward1yr and Sarah 3mths. They came from Sheffield. possible connection to Norton

After1901 Walter,Grace were born and possibly Thomas??. Alice died before 1911. I am sure Sarah was then taken care of by a lady i known referred to as "old granny Lowe.who in 1901 was down as being neighbours of my family. James i think moved to Worksop and remarried a lady who owned a wool shop/on Newcastle Avenue. He also he lived on King street Worksop and Westgate.

Grace or Gert went on to marry someone with name Shepherd. the names of Gwen and daughter Cynthia i vaguely remember being mentioned when i was small.

Cynthia married Peter/and went on to have children 1 of which i know was called Alana.they lived in Peacehaven down South.

Sarah married Tom/Thomas Richardson in about1929ish and had 2 sons Stanley and Alan, born 5/10/36. Stan was couple years older. Tom had been married to his 1st cousin before he married Sarah.Healso had strong connections with Worksop Town F.C he died in 1974. Sarah in 1984.names connected to Sarah-Brunt/Sheperd/Lowe also someone she knew well ran the Unicorn pub in Worksop.also the parents of Tom or Sarah don’t know which thou did own the Ship inn in Worksop for a number of years

Tom had a brother George and had son called Derek. Derek had son called Nigel. My godmother wa s"aunty Marjorie who lived in New Manton in the1970/80s

Tom and Sarah’s eldest son Stanley lived at Eakring was married and had a daughter called Pearl, maybe more children. hH married a scotch lady and had 2 sons Paul around 1968 and Glen 1972.they lived around Edwinstowe area

Stan and Margaret both are buried there.
Alan is still alive and had Anthon John known as John in 1960. Mark in 1966 and Sonja in 1970/71.

if anyone knows anything about any of these family’s could you let me know please.

Alan married Mary Rutherford in 1958. Alan’s children’s mother she was from Gateshead.

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Just a point please check your Caps are not on lock next time very very difficult to read otherwise.

I also notice that some of the people are still "living" as this is an open forum I would be very cautious of what you place on the boards.

Have you checked the search trees at the top of this page

for ref

1901 Address: Whitwell, Whitwell (Derby), Whitwell
GREAVES, James Head Married M 28 1873 Coal Miner Hewer
Sheffield
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Alice Wife Married F 28 1873
Adwick
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Gertrude Daughter F 5 1896
Darfield
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Maud Daughter F 4 1897
Darfield
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Ida Daughter F 3 1898
Darfield
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Edward Son M 1 1900
Darfield
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Sarah Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1901
Whitwell
Derbyshire

Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Greaves Ida Barnsley 9c 260

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Greaves Gertrude Barnsley 9c 275




Cannot see a marriage for gertrude to Shepherd

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Greaves Maud Barnsley 9c 269

Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Greaves Edward Barnsley 9c 257


or


Births Mar 1901 (>99%)

Greaves Edward Barnsley 9c 302

possible marriage

Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%)

Greaves Edward Ripley Barnsley 9c 504

Ripley Sarah Greaves Barnsley 9c 504

Difficult to follow Sonja-

As far as I can tell this could be your family in 1911:

GREAVES JAMES M 1874 37 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES ALICE F 1874 37 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES IDA F 1898 13 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES EDWARD M 1900 11 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES SARAH F 1901 10 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES JOHN M 1903 8 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES GRACE F 1905 6 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES JAMES WALTER M 1907 4 Worksop Nottinghamshire

Looks like Alice is still alive in 1911???

I think this could be Alice's death:

Deaths Sep 1923
GREAVES Alice age 50, Worksop 7b 28

This could be connected

1901 Address: The Branks, Whitwell (Derby), Whitwell
LOWE, Charles Head Married M 56 1845 Roadman
Warsop
Nottinghamshire VIEW
LOWE, Sarah Wife Married F 36 1865
Worksop
Nottinghamshire VIEW
LOWE, Edwin Son Single M 24 1877 Coal Miner Other Worker Below Ground
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOWE, May Daughter Single F 17 1884
Nottingham
Nottinghamshire VIEW
LOWE, Henry Son Single M 15 1886 Coal Miner Horse Driver Below Ground
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOWE, Tom Son M 14 1887 Coal Miner Horse Driver Below Ground
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOWE, Charles Son M 12 1889
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
GREAVES, Frank Relative Widower M 74 1827 Shoemaker Retired
Dinnington
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, John Single M 42 1859 Coalminer Hewer
Worksop
Nottinghamshire

It was Maud who was living with the Lowe family in 1911:

LOWE CHARLES M 1845 66 Worksop Nottinghamshire
LOWE SARAH F 1865 46 Worksop Nottinghamshire
LOWE EDWIN M 1877 34 Worksop Nottinghamshire
LOWE TOM M 1887 24 Worksop Nottinghamshire
LOWE CHARLES M 1890 21 Worksop Nottinghamshire
LOWE SAMUEL M 1905 6 Worksop Nottinghamshire
GREAVES MAUD F 1897 14 Worksop Nottinghamshire

1901 Address: Whitwell Hunger Hill, Whitwell (Derby), Whitwell
CUMBERLAND, Herbert Head Married M 25 1876 Butcher Beef & Pork
Nottingham
Nottinghamshire VIEW
CUMBERLAND, Lucy Wife Married F 23 1878
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
CUMBERLAND, Berthe Daughter F 2 1899
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
CUMBERLAND, John Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
STEWART, Florence Visitor Single F 18 1883
Barnsley
Yorkshire VIEW
GREAVES, Sarah Wife F 75 1826 Retired Publican
Allgreen
Yorkshire

A possible connection here so hold and evaluate later

Hello Helen
I did not see you there. It is difficult to follow isn't it. There is no apparent connection between the names in the first part of the post and the second.

Hello Christine

I haven't made it to the last part of the post yet!- very difficult to follow. Hopefully Sonja will come back and tell us if we're getting warm :)

1891 Address: The Branks Cottage, Station Road, Whitwell
LOW, Charles Head Married M 46 1845 General Labourer
Warsop
Nottinghamshire VIEW
LOW, Sarah Wife Married F 29 1862
Worksop
Nottinghamshire VIEW
LOW, Edwin Son M 15 1876 General Labourer
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOW, Ada Daughter F 13 1878
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOW, May Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Nottingham VIEW
LOW, Harry Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOW, Thomas C Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
LOW, Charles Son M 1 1890
Whitwell
Derbyshire VIEW
FLOWER, George Lodger Single M 47 1844 General Labourer
Whitwell
Derbyshire

PM recieved 3 am this morning
could be time zone issues


thanks alot that is my grandma-sarah greaves.she went on to marry thomas richardson and had 2 sons.thomas had been married before to his cousin-i dont know if any children were born or the name of his 1st cousin.though the name of richardson is the surname-my thomas and his 2nd son alan were both nicknamed"needham".i dont know why.im new to this and dnt know any more only what was written before.thanks alot your help is appriciated-i have always thought that alice died early befoer 1911,possibly childbirth.i haveno idea what hermaiden name was thopugh
.fron sonja

Hello Sonja,

Do you have your father's birth certificate? His birth certificate should give you his parent's names- you should always start with something you know and work backwards.

When you have his birth certificate, you can use those details to see if his parents married.

Just ask if you need help tracing your father's birth certificate.

Helen x

Sonja
Why have you started this thread when you already have one and some of the info has already been found for you?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1142497